Originally posted by KCJ506
I agree. Nothing against Goku, but if they were to actually put him in Smash, all it will end up doing is opening flood gates for pretty much any other character out there that didn't originate in a video game. You're going to end up with fanbases from every pop icon with a keyboard demanding characters like Harry Potter, Spider-man, Wolverine, James Bond, Homer Simpson, Spongebob, etc, etc. Not to mention other anime fanbases which are going to want characters from those animes.By the end of it you're left with a game that was once a celebration about Nintendo icons to one which is just a celebration of pop icons in general. Newcomers from Nintendo IP's like Arms or the Wonderful 101 will never get in as the discussion is dominated by requests characters Batman, Iron Man and Darth Vader.
At this point, it's almost as bad even with third-party characters in it. You won't hear anybody talk about characters from Arms or Wonderful 101 because they're not "iconic".
Also, I don't think people are being "entitled" when they say a character is deserving. They just want a consistent concept. This series is appealing to Nintendo fans who likely grew up on Nintendo series and third-party series on those consoles. So when they said "deserving", I don't think they mean their favorites but more like, a character makes sense for the Nintendo All-Star concept that this series centered around. That's one of the main reason why people want characters like Mega Man and Simon Belmont in the game. Their series could easily pass off as Nintendo series and that's those characters are not controversial.
But characters like Cloud and Joker? It's pretty obvious why everybody is not accepting them. It's too much of a contrast with the series. Personally, for SE, I'd rather a Dragon Quest rep because I view that series in the same way I view Mega Man and Castlevania, in that it has a long history on Nintendo consoles. A rep like that wouldn't be a problem.
And as for Persona, why not a Shin Megami Tensei character instead? PlayStation has Persona and Nintendo has Shin Megami Tensei. With this still being a Nintendo crossover series, it's easy to understand why a SMT character fits better than a Persona character.
I've seen people complain about guest characters in other fighting games. People talk about how NRS went overboard with MKX and I understand that because I feel the same way. Then there's problem people have with the "Xbox character" Big Daddy in a PlayStation crossover game and I see what they're saying with that too but...that is literally the same problem I (and many others) have with Cloud and Joker in Smash Bros., but fans make all different kind of excuses for that.
It's stuff like that is what turns me off. I know it may seem silly to turn away from a series because of other people but this wouldn't have even happened in the first place if the series stayed consistent.