Cyclops (Fox) vs The Defenders (Netflix)

Started by h1a82 pages

There is no way these guys are not getting hit with the beam.

It's far faster than them, all he needs is to see them to aim (they can't move faster than he can track).

Luke at minimum gets knocked way back.

Cyke wins this.

As much as movie Cyclops is generally crap, his pure power has been shown to be pretty good. So if he tags them, I'd imagine them being pretty much mulched.

Originally posted by h1a8
(they can't move faster than he can track).

Not sure about tracking Matt. He usually gets the drop on groups of criminals.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Not sure about tracking Matt. He usually gets the drop on groups of criminals.

Okay? They start half a football field away in a wide open space and they're looking at each other. Matt's not just gonna vanish into thin air when Cyclops is staring at him.

I'm thinking as long as Cyclops watches out for Matt's billy clubs he gets the win. Here is how the fight should go down:

- Jessica, Matt, and Danny get obliterated at the outset, with Matt maybe dodging a couple of beams until Scott tags him.
- Luke get pushed back enough to give Scott breathing room to do a Kamehameha wave esque optic blast to at least KO him.

EDIT: 50 yards in NYC can give Matt (and maybe even Danny if he's not CIS "I must avenge Kun Lun as the Iron Fist" mode, in which he monologues in front of his opponent(s)) a lot of real estate with which to work: alleyways, buildings, trees, etc. If it's an open area - should be since it just says 50 yards in NYC with no other specs - see the above.

Originally posted by KingD19
Okay? They start half a football field away in a wide open space and they're looking at each other. Matt's not just gonna vanish into thin air when Cyclops is staring at him.

Who said its a wide open space?

Thats not how Mat operates in any case.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Who said its a wide open space?

Thats not how Mat operates in any case.

It's New York. Unless it's in a building or stated to be in an alley or something, New York is actually pretty big out on the streets. And 50 yards. They start looking at each other.

And Matt has operated that way plenty. Where he just tries to war hammer his way through a room and foregoes any stealth to just fight. He's not going to be dodging a wide beam.

Originally posted by h1a8
There is no way these guys are not getting hit with the beam.

It's far faster than them, all he needs is to see them to aim (they can't move faster than he can track).

Luke at minimum gets knocked way back.

Cyke wins this.

Originally posted by -Pr-
As much as movie Cyclops is generally crap, his pure power has been shown to be pretty good. So if he tags them, I'd imagine them being pretty much mulched.
These. Any Defender that gets caught by the blast is toast, and the only one of them who has any chance of avoiding it is DD. If it's nighttime, DD may be able to get in a stealthy knock with the billy clubs for the win. We've seen plenty of instances where he's used the shadows to evade gunfire. I realize this isn't the same, but he has a chance.

If it's daytime, they get stomped.

Not really commenting on the result, but people seem to forget that while Danny doesn't have as many speed/agility/reaction feats as Matt, the feats he has are pretty good:

^Oh yeah, Danny has plenty in the nimble department.

So, in some promotional preview footage for Luke Cage season 2, we see Luke run a 40-yard dash in 3.72 seconds. He can also perform a 24-foot broad jump. The tire feat is meh, as he has done way better onscreen.

YouTube video

So, assuming Cage isn't screwing around, Cyke potentially has little over 4 seconds to put him down before Cage reaches him.

So, not sure if that affects anyone's opinion of the match. Just thought I would throw that bit of info out there.

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Did Cyclops get any more feats of note in Dark Phoenix?

Cyclops SHOULD be able to massacre this team but he somehow won't.

Originally posted by emporerpants
The fight is in New York and they start 50 yards apart. Can Cyke take them down before they find a way to get to him and take him out?

Which Cyclops is this?

Originally posted by John Murdoch
Did Cyclops get any more feats of note in Dark Phoenix?

He was much more of a combatant in DP.

Took on different opponents like Beast and Magneto as well as multiple fodder aliens. Was also the last one shot down when the police are chasing them.

But not amazing blast feats I can think of.

He was also doing some ricochet shots (finally), which should be a big help against the more agile members here, like Matt and Danny.