Originally posted by Surtur
You aren't correct. Do you deny we've had this discussion before?
It's not 50% of the their vote is their fault and 50% of their vote is 'something something leftist' fault and you repeatedly try and just tried again. Or some other silly % combo.
Originally posted by Robtard
You were wrong then and you're wrong now. Trump won cos 'X' amount of people voted for him (and how our electoral college works). Unless some Trump voter was coerced into voting, they're 100% responsible in how they voted.It's not 50% of the their vote is their fault and 50% of their vote is 'something something leftist' fault and you repeatedly try and just tried again. Or some other silly % combo.
Trump won for a variety of reasons. I mean look, I don't care. You can ignore those reasons if you want. There is just to be zero whining if he wins again in 2020.
Still waiting for you to Surtsplain this, second item:
Originally posted by Robtard
^ You're unable to accept your own actions and you're trying to shed yourself of responsibility.I didn't support Trump and I didn't vote for Trump. How am I (or someone like me) responsible in Trump winning? Can you Surtsplain it?
Originally posted by Robtard
Another dodge, how shocking.
I just told you what you need to do. Admit you do not have a legendary memory.
I mean, if you don't have one admitting it is no big deal. If you do have one you wouldn't need me to answer shit that has already been discussed.
Just say you do not and I will answer.
Surtur prefers Trump to the alternative, why should he regret his vote?
You clearly do dislike Trump more than the alternatives, so why not be self-aware enough to challenge blatantly toxic and alienating political rhetoric that's driving people away from the DNC?
Surtur's not complaining that Trump beat Hillary, why do you expect a Mea Culpa from voters who don't regret their vote? On the other hand it's completely reasonable to tell a democrat who doesn't want Trump to win again that they should take account of and try and do something about the ineffective political strategy of their own party.
The lesson is that if you aren't doing what is in your own best political interest, you're retarded. Surtur's not apologizing or taking action, but he's fine with Trump in office rather than Hillary and probably fine with him beating whatever democratic candidate they run in 2020, he's properly acting within his own political interests. The leftists who desperately hate Trump are not acting in their own best political interests because they're shooting themselves in the foot with their shitty political strategy, ergo they're being retarded.
Um, he's literally walked away from being responsible in how he voted.
I voted for Clinton and if she won and was a shitshow, I'd not go "but HRC voters aren't fully responsible, the other side..." excuses.
How are people being driven away from the DNC exactly? Sure some, as it happens to both sides in every election with party-flip voters, but she got 3+million more votes than he did, she won the popularity contest, he won the election with the rules in place. This wasn't a Reagan-Mondale election.
Originally posted by Robtard
Um, he's literally walked away from being responsible in how he voted.I voted for Clinton and if she won and was a shitshow, I'd not go "but HRC voters aren't fully responsible, the other side..." excuses.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
You could definitely say "but the alternative was Donald ****ing Trump".
I could, If I were silly, or if I was a "both main party candidates are toxic and they do not represent anything I believe in" type of voter, I could have voted for one of the 3rd party candidates, or written someone in like Sanders or Kasich or Chuck Norris or not voted for a president at all. There was more than Clinton/Trump as an option.
Originally posted by Robtard
I could, If I were silly, or if I was a "both main party candidates are toxic and they do not represent anything I believe in" type of voter, I could have voted for one of the 3rd party candidates, or written someone in like Sanders or Kasich or Chuck Norris or not voted for a president at all. There was more than Clinton/Trump as an option.
Originally posted by Robtard
I could, If I were silly, or if I was a "both main party candidates are toxic and they do not represent anything I believe in" type of voter, I could have voted for one of the 3rd party candidates, or written someone in like Sanders or Kasich or Chuck Norris or not voted for a president at all. There was more than Clinton/Trump as an option.