Originally posted by quanchi112
Universal healthcare would be cheaper than the awful and outdated corrupt system currently in place. And I see you are incredibly childish and stupid.When you lower corporate taxes for the elites you have to take the money from elsewhere. So now you hear the idiot Mitch McConnell dare say they are thinking about going after Medicare and social security. **** him and **** you.
I agree welfare needs to be reformed as you have the frauds like Surt living on the government tip on east street but the rest is nonsense. It is the scum like you who march to the barking of the hypocrites who run the Republican Party.
California does not seem like the hellscape to which you describe. You are currently being mocked for your postsby not just me. Have a little self awareness.
Like I care what a Leftist thinks when I know they're wrong? 😱
Aw you act like a litte kid, very childish and you think you act like an adult? Want the governemnt to take care of you forever right? Yeah that doesn't work, never has worked. Universal Healthcare is ruining the West. We were much more better before nations began adding Leftist ideas like this. But yes lets continue to keep doing what the Democrats want right? That's been working so well. smh
Originally posted by kevdudeAw you act like a litte kid, very childish and you think you act like an adult? Want the governemnt to take care of you forever right? Yeah that doesn't work, never has worked. Universal Healthcare is ruining the West. We were much more better before nations began adding Leftist ideas like this. But yes lets continue to keep doing what the Democrats want right? That's been working so well. smh
We would do well to get rid of all these state insurance commisioners and allow the federal govt to provide a way to purchase a policy that isn't run by private companies. One that still has copays, coinsurance, first dollar benefits and cover preexisting conditions while still charging a premium for the policy.
People could easily see what they want and have a private option as well as a public option.
Originally posted by kevdudeBased off what am I wrong? Actually make a legitimate point I do not care for your silly little emotions.
Like I care what a Leftist thinks when I know they're wrong? 😱Aw you act like a litte kid, very childish and you think you act like an adult? Want the governemnt to take care of you forever right? Yeah that doesn't work, never has worked. Universal Healthcare is ruining the West. We were much more better before nations began adding Leftist ideas like this. But yes lets continue to keep doing what the Democrats want right? That's been working so well. smh
I want universal healthcare just as most other countries show it works. I am extremely good at managing my finances these days so they have never taken care of me in my life you manbaby.
Based off what is it ruining the west? Insurance benefits the insurance companies it is an outdated system that needs to go just like you do. Quit being so inherently biased against the left and actually address healthcare with factual data. Lets go. You are one of the spoon fed sheep and I would bet I have a lot more money than you do making your comments highly ironic.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based off what am I wrong? Actually make a legitimate point I do not care for your silly little emotions.I want universal healthcare just as most other countries show it works. I am extremely good at managing my finances these days so they have never taken care of me in my life you manbaby.
Based off what is it ruining the west? Insurance benefits the insurance companies it is an outdated system that needs to go just like you do. Quit being so inherently biased against the left and actually address healthcare with factual data. Lets go. You are one of the spoon fed sheep and I would bet I have a lot more money than you do making your comments highly ironic.
Already told you but let’s say it again. If universal healthcare works so good, then why does it cost so much? Before the left started to promise healthcare would go down with gov help, the cost of healthcare has gone up in the west. And it’s not just by a little bit.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based off what am I wrong? Actually make a legitimate point I do not care for your silly little emotions.I want universal healthcare just as most other countries show it works. I am extremely good at managing my finances these days so they have never taken care of me in my life you manbaby.
Based off what is it ruining the west? Insurance benefits the insurance companies it is an outdated system that needs to go just like you do. Quit being so inherently biased against the left and actually address healthcare with factual data. Lets go. You are one of the spoon fed sheep and I would bet I have a lot more money than you do making your comments highly ironic.
Insurance companies aren't exactly raking it in, tbh. At least according to those that work for them.
No idea about the debate between universal health care and the status quo, but I kind of think there's a fundamental problem with the US in general, that would poison any attempts at reform.
Yes, this is defeatist, but it's also based on a reality that there's corruption at every level of society. Government regulators are routinely captured, to the point agencies assigned to address the problem argue you can't defeat capture, and must include an expectation of it in any policy.
Drug companies and the medical industry are, of course, businesses who only care about profits. And what happens if 10% of the population is much more profitable then 90% of the population? Logically, you mark up drugs to the point where that 10% fills your coffers, without caring about the 90% which represents a drop in the bucket.
But really, it comes down to will. Who has the will to try and reform a broken system against so many interests? Who could maintain a moral center, in a world of big money, big pressure, aligning interests of a few at the expense of the public.. Presidents have been brought low by such powers, since the 1800's. Israel was supposed to be a two state solution, but for high pressure tactics by high powered individuals, as admitted by the president of the day (Harry S. Truman).
And someone's gonna fix health care? Lol.
And someone's gonna fix health care? Lol.
That is part of the flaw in our system where most people that use health insurance are in a group policy that is being funded by the employer for at least 50% and as much as 100% premiums.
So much of the US doesn't realize the true cost of policies, they just look at benefits.
Where as if you purchase an individual policy it's a different cost because you pay 100% of of the premiums plus you have to pay to use the benefits.
Originally posted by kevdudeYou saying it costs so much is not backing it with a source.
Already told you but let’s say it again. If universal healthcare works so good, then why does it cost so much? Before the left started to promise healthcare would go down with gov help, the cost of healthcare has gone up in the west. And it’s not just by a little bit.
Here you go, moron.
https://www.thenation.com/article/thanks-koch-brothers-proof-single-payer-saves-money/
Now enough of your stupidly I do not care for your opinion. I have sources you do not.
Originally posted by cdtm
Insurance companies aren't exactly raking it in, tbh. At least according to those that work for them.No idea about the debate between universal health care and the status quo, but I kind of think there's a fundamental problem with the US in general, that would poison any attempts at reform.
Yes, this is defeatist, but it's also based on a reality that there's corruption at every level of society. Government regulators are routinely captured, to the point agencies assigned to address the problem argue you can't defeat capture, and must include an expectation of it in any policy.
Drug companies and the medical industry are, of course, businesses who only care about profits. And what happens if 10% of the population is much more profitable then 90% of the population? Logically, you mark up drugs to the point where that 10% fills your coffers, without caring about the 90% which represents a drop in the bucket.
But really, it comes down to will. Who has the will to try and reform a broken system against so many interests? Who could maintain a moral center, in a world of big money, big pressure, aligning interests of a few at the expense of the public.. Presidents have been brought low by such powers, since the 1800's. Israel was supposed to be a two state solution, but for high pressure tactics by high powered individuals, as admitted by the president of the day (Harry S. Truman).
And someone's gonna fix health care? Lol.
https://www.thenation.com/article/thanks-koch-brothers-proof-single-payer-saves-money/
There. Saving money works. You really bring nothing but a worthless opinion tbh. Another kevdude.
Originally posted by quanchi112
https://www.thenation.com/article/thanks-koch-brothers-proof-single-payer-saves-money/There. Saving money works. You really bring nothing but a worthless opinion tbh. Another kevdude.
😂 what a joke
Originally posted by quanchi112
https://www.thenation.com/article/thanks-koch-brothers-proof-single-payer-saves-money/There. Saving money works. You really bring nothing but a worthless opinion tbh. Another kevdude.
So does transparency. Try getting the cost of a procedure from any hospital you work for. Employee's have written articles about a disturbing inability to get any solid information at all about costs.
We're talking about two different things. You're saying single payer can work, I'm saying, unless it makes someone even richer then the current system, it won't happen.
Politics assumes the people have an advocate, and that people are fundamentally good and honest, I say, they don't, and they're not.
Gotta love this, Obama campaigns for 4 candidates and all 4 lose! 😂
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/obama-loses-again