darthgoober
Senior Member
Originally posted by Nephthys
I see. When I said "perfectly fine without guns" you foolishly took that as me saying that we have no crime and live in a paradise. While at the time I was actually referring to Emb's dumb obsession with second amendment rights and commenting that in England we don't exactly weep for the oppressive restrictions on our ability to kill each other, I can see where you're coming from now. However, like I said the recent growth can be attributed to a specific change in stop and search policies and doesn't actually reflect upon our weapons policies. As you concede that knives are indeed less lethal than guns then my position stands. Bombs are too complicated and difficult to acquire for widespread use and vehicles are more restrictive and steps are being taken to make cities safer with barriers.
Yeah see, we had a stop and frisk policy for a while over here too, but liberals were against it. And no, bombs aren't all that complicated to make... they're actually shockingly easy for anyone who's a fan of chemistry. I knew how to make explosives, napalm, and poisonous gases before I left highschool. And I didn't even have 24 hour access to the internet the way kids do nowadays. And you can't put up barriers everywhere, those who want to kill a lot of people with a car or truck will still have plenty of opportunity.
Originally posted by Nephthys
The very fact that your example is of a ****ing child murdering multiple people speaks of the depravity of the American mindset on this issue. That you see that as an appeal honestly sickens me. Regardless, this fantasy of Macaulay Culkin thwarting a home invasion is just that: A fantasy. Its not worth the blood that soaks your country. So yeah, the UK is better than you on this issue and I suspect will be for quite some time.
It's not murder, it's self defense. And it's not a fantasy, it's actually happened multiple times. Here's a whole list of kids who've successfully used guns to protect themselves from wild animals, intruders, etc...
https://lawnews.tv/examples-of-kids-using-guns-to-defend-themselves/
And kids are just the most extreme example, guns also serve as an equalizer against intruders/attackers who are physically more powerful than them.