Originally posted by Sin I AM
yea this is a dumb idea. they need nurturing and education not slave labor.
I'm reasonably sure that the kids who spent years going through that kind of thing would agree with me that the option I'm talking about is better than forcing kids to stay in a system that allows for them to be repeatedly victimized.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
with 20% of our military budget we could probably just clone them all new parents.
Do you even know how underpaid a soldier is? Especially a brand new private?
A person working a 9-5 job makes more than an E-1. The only reason a private survives, is because the military gave them a place to live.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
yea this is a dumb idea. they need nurturing and education not slave labor.
Do you consider summer camps slave labors? After all, the kids are made to make stuff, wake up early, forced by their parents and staff to participate in craps they don’t want, like hiking, canoeing, art and crafts.
Originally posted by Surtur
Can't they just bring tutors to the sweatshop and tutor the kids on their 12 minute lunch breaks?
i loled.
Originally posted by darthgoober
It's not slave labor, they'd be getting paid, educated, and trained in a useful job skill that they volunteered for. I fully agree that the best possible thing for a foster child is to grow up in a nurturing house hold for for those who have that option I wouldn't even open the program to them. This wouldn't be for the kids who are easily placed in loving homes, it'd be for the 15 year olds that no one wants because of the attitude problems they've developed from being bounced around repeatedly and physically and/or sexually abused by someone in their foster families. Kids that are likely to end up as homeless runaways anyway.I'm reasonably sure that the kids who spent years going through that kind of thing would agree with me that the option I'm talking about is better than forcing kids to stay in a system that allows for them to be repeatedly victimized.
have you ever been in a group home, half-way house, etc? what you are basically describing is job corps which is already in place. Troubled ophans dont need a job they need a family. Use those resources to find a suitable home. Not some shit job.
Originally posted by SquallX
Do you even know how underpaid a soldier is? Especially a brand new private?A person working a 9-5 job makes more than an E-1. The only reason a private survives, is because the military gave them a place to live.
this is false
Originally posted by SquallX
Do you consider summer camps slave labors? After all, the kids are made to make stuff, wake up early, forced by their parents and staff to participate in craps they don’t want, like hiking, canoeing, art and crafts.
and this is dumb.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
this is falseand this is dumb.
Are you in the military? I am.
A brand new private, an E-1 makes around 450 or so every two weeks, and around 1000 a month after taxes. The only reason that soldier is not living under the poverty line, is because the government gave you a meal card, free laundry, housing and free electricity. They also covers healthcare and dental.
So it’s not false.
As for you’re second part, why is it dumb? Most kids wants nothing to with camps, when they are indeed being force to do things they don’t want too.
Originally posted by SquallX
Are you in the military? I am.A brand new private, an E-1 makes around 450 or so every two weeks, and around 1000 a month after taxes. The only reason that soldier is not living under the poverty line, is because the government gave you a meal card, free laundry, housing and free electricity. They also covers healthcare and dental.
So it’s not false.
As for you’re second part, why is it dumb? Most kids wants nothing to with camps, when they are indeed being force to do things they don’t want too.
i was i retired
a brand new e1 makes about 19000 a year. divide that by 2080 and he makes about 9.25 an hour. Minimum wage is 7.25 (in texas,sc where army/marine/airforce basic training is) and 8.25 in illinois (where navy boot camp is) so not your first statement was wrong. add in the fact that most new enlisted soldiers get promoted twice AUTOMATICALLY within that first year (unless they phuck up) they wont be sitting at 9.25 for long. add in free medical, free dental, life insurance and dependents they make wayyyyyy more.
second part youre comparing forced fun with forced labor
Originally posted by Sin I AM
i was i retireda brand new e1 makes about 19000 a year. divide that by 2080 and he makes about 9.25 an hour. Minimum wage is 7.25 (in texas,sc where army/marine/airforce basic training is) and 8.25 in illinois (where navy boot camp is) so not your first statement was wrong. add in the fact that most new enlisted soldiers get promoted twice AUTOMATICALLY within that first year (unless they phuck up) they wont be sitting at 9.25 for long. add in free medical, free dental, life insurance and dependents they make wayyyyyy more.
second part youre comparing forced fun with forced labor
Concise and accurate post 👆
But your facts can't compete with feelings and playing victim. Sorry.
Originally posted by Robtard
Concise and accurate post 👆But your facts can't compete with feelings and playing victim. Sorry.
i suppose. just have to shutdown false narratives. Enlisted dont get paid as much as officers but the do get paid well considering they are fresh out of high school with no college education. Everything from clothing to housing to food is free. Your paycheck is YOUR paycheck.
as far as the kids labor thing goes i wish people would place themselves in those circumstances rather than spewing stuff they don't know about.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
i suppose. just have to shutdown false narratives. Enlisted dont get paid as much as officers but the do get paid well considering they are fresh out of high school with no college education. Everything from clothing to housing to food is free. Your paycheck is YOUR paycheck.as far as the kids labor thing goes i wish people would place themselves in those circumstances rather than spewing stuff they don't know about.
Oh, I know. I've never served and I knew all of that. Even if I just had free medical that would be a nice chunk of cash back in my pocket every month. Perks like free med, dental, housing, meals, marriage exceptions, child exceptions etc., all need to be factored in when comparing the wages of a soldier who gets that and a civilian who doesn't if we're being accurate/honest. Even if they both make $12.00 an hour, the grunt has less overhead chipping away at their earnings. As you said "Your paycheck is YOUR paycheck."