Worthy Tournament - Odds Thread

Originally posted by "Id"
Ok so we got our final 4 in.

LoB - Cyborg Supes.
Leo - Loki.
Super M - Silver Surfer
Id- Shaman X-Man

Um...so from a drafting point of view. This shit is fiercely competitive.

But the matchups are interesting.

LoB vs Loki: The result Shenanigans, some way in some form LoB will pull a scan of a Prego whopping on Loki. 😆

Id vs Super M: I am doing all the exposing *unzips.

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With the start point of 4:1 odds for all combatants, I see no reason to alter Surfer or Nate's odds. Both of you know your sh*t and have good drafts. Leo's still the 2nd most prolific tourney participant in KMC history, so LoB is the underdog (pun intended) but has the beast that is Cyborg Supes. 6:1, 3:1 adjustments for them, respectively, would probably approximate a Vegas line, if they were to be made.

I'm up for judging future matches.

The one good thing that came out of this 👆

LoB - Cyborg Supes.
Leo - Loki.
Super M - Silver Surfer
Id- Shaman X-Man

I still find it hilarious that the final 4 comes down to 4 completely distinctive characters who are often portrayed as the pinnacle of their respective category.

On reflection, I'm thinking Dr Doom would have been an awesome pick.

Definitely the best odds of any herald character actually being able to absorb/become the mother storm.

pretty sure that doom wouldn't have been given access to mother storm powers because he is not a 'thunder god' by tourney standards, but....i could be wrong. /shrug

Doom still would have been an insanely tough out; definitely on par with the remaining four. But as it is, I don't think anyone's kicking themselves for not switching picks or drafting someone else.

oh yeah--doom was someone i considered for a little bit then....just stopped thinking about for no real reason at all. lol i was lured by the irony of loki using the hammer methinks. but yeah, he'd have been deadly in this.

The number of times Loki has interacted with the hammer makes him underrated here, giving him feats no one else has access to. Doom may have also been a liability against Henshaw. It's hard to hack his armor, but no one's more hax in that department than Cyborg Supes. Might be a blessing neither of you selected Doom.

Real life responsibilities blows. Feel this is the last time I participate in a tournament.

Originally posted by Digi
The number of times Loki has interacted with the hammer makes him underrated here, giving him feats no one else has access to. Doom may have also been a liability against Henshaw. It's hard to hack his armor, but no one's more hax in that department than Cyborg Supes. Might be a blessing neither of you selected Doom.

He can’t be that underrated if you gave him the best tournament odds. 😕

As much because of the strength of his past record than Loki alone. And Supermutant had the same odds. If I were looking at drafts alone, Surfer would probably be 1, Nate 2, Loki/Henshaw 3, though the gap between any of them is small.

But the comment was made in the context of the current discussion about Doom, who gets top billing (in the comics) more often than Loki. My underrated comment was mostly just making that comparison. I'd personally rather have Loki due to the circumstances of the tourney, but Doom would often be my preference in other formats.

Oh, their odds were also lower because they had the 3-way first round matchup, so all three were statistically more likely to advance by a significant margin. It's likely the odds gap would have disappeared with default 1-v-1 matches in R1.

Id with the fake news up there...smh

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bada won't be pleased with you stealing his schtick.

Meh, the Raptor and I are on good terms. I can borrow schticks from time to time.

uhuh

I feel like the next reference coming out of digi is labeling members as crooked-Leo.

Which is totally fine and fair when he speaks of Leo.

I feel you with the commitment to these things, Id. I hopped out of this one when I realized it wasn't a one-match free-for-all. My days in full scale tourneys are almost certainly over.

Originally posted by "Id"
I feel like the next reference coming out of digi is labeling members as crooked-Leo.

Which is totally fine and fair when he speaks of Leo.

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I'm always Fair and Balanced. Crooked Leo can't get any brownie points with his transparent pandering.

Don’t you miss the earlier days back in 2006 or 2007. When it was pure Chaos.

14 members would sign up.

Draft was first come first serve.

It didn’t matter what tier you drafted. With 3 picks and 5 min of prep ppl would bring out universal Wreckage.

A shit ton of drama.

Pure chaos

@Id (can't quote) - Yeahhh. I don't "miss" those days, per se, but they were great at the time. As a college kid (and eventually post-grad) with way too much free time, it was a wonderful clusterf*ck. But if those happened today, I would neither enter nor judge.

One time I commandeered...I think it was a massive, space-faring Gundam ship, that had planet destroying capabilities and advanced mechs in the hangars. Whoever I drafted was entirely pointless (it was a high meta tourney, iirc). My entire strategy was due to the battlefield. I knew f*ck all about Gundam, and spent about a week researching and asking questions on Gundam message boards just to pull that nonsense.

Originally posted by Digi
I feel you with the commitment to these things, Id. I hopped out of this one when I realized it wasn't a one-match free-for-all. My days in full scale tourneys are almost certainly over.

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I'm always Fair and Balanced. Crooked Leo can't get any brownie points with his transparent pandering.

Transparent. Pfft. My pandering is extremely sly. sneer