The Ultimate Delusion of the Alt-Right

So let’s set aside for the moment the obvious moral repugnancy and illiberal principles of the alt-right’s ideology...

The Alt-right often says they’re necessary because liberals (actual liberals... not the bigots on the other end of the spectrum or marxists) and their individualist principles are too weak to handle the cultural decay of the West. The alt-rights main talking point is race realism, and they view liberal style individualism as a fantasy that just isn’t realistic enough to solve the issue so they promote their agenda under the guise of realism, however...

There’s nothing realistic about the most hated political group in the West gaining the political power needed to form an ethnostate (which would take more power than either the democrats or republicans have with all three branches of government). It’s basically just a delusional fantasy.

Culturally protectionist immigration policy is actually realistic, but it’s not a stance remotely unique to the alt-right nor is it one that need be applied through a racial lens.

The Biggest Delusion in this is the LEFT thinking that these groups are in any way "RIGHT". Alt or otherwise.

What lessons the LEFT has drawn from the defeat of Hillary Clinton and expose of Harvey Weinstein? Any introspection?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
So let’s set aside for the moment the obvious moral repugnancy and illiberal principles of the alt-right’s ideology...

The Alt-right often says they’re necessary because liberals (actual liberals... not the bigots on the other end of the spectrum or marxists) and their individualist principles are too weak to handle the cultural decay of the West. The alt-rights main talking point is race realism, and they view liberal style individualism as a fantasy that just isn’t realistic enough to solve the issue so they promote their agenda under the guise of realism, however...

There’s nothing realistic about the most hated political group in the West gaining the political power needed to form an ethnostate (which would take more power than either the democrats or republicans have with all three branches of government). It’s basically just a delusional fantasy.

Culturally protectionist immigration policy is actually realistic, but it’s not a stance remotely unique to the alt-right nor is it one that need be applied through a racial lens.

I think the alt left and right are two sides of the same coin. They both love identity politics and playing the victim and using their victim hood to further their own agendas.

But yeah, the alt right isn't going to gain any real power in this country.

there is no alt-left you simple cuck

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
What lessons the LEFT has drawn from the defeat of Hillary Clinton and expose of Harvey Weinstein? Any introspection?

Originally posted by Surtur
I think the alt left and right are two sides of the same coin. They both love identity politics and playing the victim and using their victim hood to further their own agendas.

But yeah, the alt right isn't going to gain any real power in this country.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
there is no alt-left you simple cuck

Hmm, yeah. I've always wondered how the alt-right could ever hope to implement their desired ethno-state. Not just because that would require inordinate political power, as you said, but also because it would be difficult to know when to draw the line. By white, do we just mean those from White-NA and Northern Europe, or does it include the more olive-skinned Mediterraneans? Because I'd imagine each alt-righter will have their own idea on a cutoff point, which could impede things even if the alt-right gained true political power. Then there's the question of ancestry. Could somebody who is white skinned but had, say, some black ancestors quite close to the present (ie. grandparent[s]), be barred from the ethnostate? That is to say: would there be a one drop rule of some sort or would entry be solely based on superficial whiteness (which would open the door to Jews, whom the alt-right despise)? And if it's the one drop rule route, how would this be determined? Compulsory genetic testing? That's a massive infringement on civil liberties. Then there are simple efficiency issues. By barring different racial groups wholesale, an ethnostate would be deprived of productive prospective-citizens who wish to work, integrate and contribute.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
That’s not a legitimate label but the alt-right has their identitarian anti-individualistic counterparts on the left.

Bingo. Why some can't understand this is beyond me.

Even the "they didn't give the label to themselves!" logic doesn't change that. We have clearly seen that, as far as a lot on the left are concerned, you don't need to self identify as something for them to apply certain labels to a person. These people were labeling people who disagreed with them nazis long before Richard Spencer coined the term "alt right".

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
there is no alt-left you simple cuck

Not only are you wrong that's a recent thing (to pretend there's no such thing as the Alt-Left).

That's one of those anti-Trump talking points since he made his statements about the Charlottesville stuff. You've been drinking the CNN Koolaid. I am not sure if it started with CNN but a quick google search nets me a result.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/alt-left-alt-right-trump-internet-subculture-90s-cyber-what-we-stood-for-a7906246.html

And Wa-Po says the Liberals created the Alt-Left label, not the conservatives:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/08/17/the-alt-right-didnt-invent-alt-left-liberals-did

oh?

eat

Originally posted by Emperordmb
That’s not a legitimate label [full stop]

now it's a proper statement. i do appreciate you opening your statement with some intellectual honesty, unlike the other chimp retards in this thread, but pointing out how all political persuasions have their malignant tumors does not successfully downplay the organization known as the alt-right. it has no equal counterpart on the left. there is no way to spin around that.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
now it's a proper statement. i do appreciate you opening your statement with some intellectual honesty, unlike the other chimp retards in this thread, but pointing out how all political persuasions have their malignant tumors does not successfully downplay the organization known as the alt-right. it has no equal counterpart on the left. there is no way to spin around that.

It actually does have an equal counterpart on the left lol. You saying "no it doesn't" is irrelevant here. DDM gave you links you just ignored.

But here is the thing: the fact they are equal doesn't downplay the alt right. No more than the alt right downplays the alt left.

Thread topic: The Alt-Right and their shit-lord delusions
Surtur: "But what bout the Leftist!!!1!"

Equalization tactics and whataboutism deflections. Well, it is Friday.

“The “alt-left” label, as it turns out, is much more insidious. It creates a false equivalence at the extremes and plays into racists’ hands. White supremacists want the far left to look more sexist and racist the same way center-left Democrats want them to — it gives them a foil.”

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Only hardcore ****wits are still buying into the alt-right.

Pinocchio, I'm looking at you.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
there is no alt-left you simple cuck

He is correct. There is only THE LEFT!

Here are my most important words:

Originally posted by dadudemon
Not only are you wrong, that's a recent thing (to pretend there's no such thing as the Alt-Left).

That's one of those anti-Trump talking points since he made his statements about the Charlottesville stuff.

Alt-Left: It's real. It's existed for a loooooong time. It's not new. Only the denial that it doesn't exist is new. As far as them being equivalent to the Alt-Right, I never made such a claim. Another important point is that the Alt-Left does not exist in opposition to the Alt-Right and vice versa. They are not "the same."

And unlike PVS, I won't be a coward and indirectly refer to people. I am specifically referring to PVS when I'm talking about people denying the existence of the Alt-Left and I am referring to people like Surtur who are trying to make the Alt-Right and Alt-Left seem "equal."