Shuri vs. Tony Stark

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Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Tony's suits defy the laws of physics lol. Given how/from where we've seen the armour pop out, collapse, fold, how it forms around him etc. there is absolutely no way it could hold all the weapons it does while maintaining all the functionality and protection it does.

Though, TBF, it's not like Wakandan tech is particularly realistic.

True, but they have a Deus Ex machina in vibranium to explain how their tech works, with Tony the explanation is just he's really smart.

if what ive heard is true then shuri hooks tony up with the tech to make the bleeding edge armour so id say she's better with inventions

Tony takes this.

Originally posted by relentless1
if what ive heard is true then shuri hooks tony up with the tech to make the bleeding edge armour so id say she's better with inventions

Even if that is true, no, it doesn't, considering we don't know that Tony couldn't have achieved it on his own with the same resources that she did. And no, their resources are not the same. Having money and a company that, at the time, was producing mostly conventional weaponry <<< having a country's worth of resources and plot-device materials to work with, and literally hundreds, if not thousands, of years of research etc. to fall back on.

Stark was literally able to make himself an expert in nuclear astrophysics overnight, as mentioned in the first Avengers film.

Originally posted by relentless1
if what ive heard is true then shuri hooks tony up with the tech to make the bleeding edge armour so id say she's better with inventions
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Hmmm, I think it would be more of her assessing with her knowledge on Vibranium for the suit.

I mean, i think the suit is made of Vibranium, and clearly Shuri's the smartest person when Vibranium is concerned (Just like Banner is the smartest dude when Gamma radiation is concerned).

But i don't think the suit's actual tech would be derived from Shuri.

Well, admittedly, the suit does seem to be nano-tech (there is a close-up in the one trailer where you see his new armor forming around him), and looks to be the MCU version of Bleeding Edge.

https://static0.srcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Avengers-infinity-War-Prime-Armor.jpg?q=50&w=1000&h=500&fit=crop

But Stark might just have invented his own version of nano-tech in the interim between films. IIRC, during the one Infinity Wars behind the scenes video, the people working on the films claimed that Tony had basically been prepping for something big ever since he had that apocalyptic vision in Age of Ultron. But we'll know for sure once the film comes out.

And based on some concept art, it might have other shapeshifting abilities as well:

As someone else pointed out on the one site, it's actually very similar to modern incarnations of the Blue Beetle.

I'm gonna say Tony. He has been doing it a bit longer than Shuri.. Although after seeing Infinity War my mind might change

Originally posted by FrothByte
Stark. Shuri had the advantage of having generations of Wakandan scientists already developing their technology and helping her out. Plus a lot of her inventions were dependent on vibranium.

Stark created his first suit w/ scrap materials in a cave while held captive.

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So doesn't Tony own after IW?

Stark, EASILY. He built his first suit from a Cave full of scraps. He also has a nano-suit that is far superior than anything Shuri has ever dreamed of.

I think its been said that Shuri is the smartest person in the MCU.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I think its been said that Shuri is the smartest person in the MCU.

Not the smartest but the one with more knowledge. Remember Wakanda is the most advanced civilization on Earth. Shuri had a hell of a better education and of-course as daughter to the king, she had unlimited knowledge and resources at her disposal.

Iron Man on the other hand, was able to built the most advanced suit on earth, and many other marvels without such knowledge. Nor with Vibranium.

Obviously Stark.

Not only are his inventions far more impressive but he built them in a less advanced society.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I think its been said that Shuri is the smartest person in the MCU.
It's one thing to say or want something to be the case..it's another thing entirely to put it into action and PROVE it. Right now, Shuri hasn't done anything more impressive than Stark. In fact, Stark's tech frankly blows her stuff away. Iron Man (especially nano-suit) ain't losing to Black Panther in a fight. Also, Stark has created renewable energy, and many many other things (including both of Spider-man's tech heavy suits). He's just proven to be the smartest mind in the MCU thus far, including Shuri. She needs more feats to back up the claim, if that has even been said.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Tony's suits defy the laws of physics lol.

Thought that was Caps Shield 😛