Philosophía
"The devil made me do it"
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Is that the amusing part of this thread?The nuke part is stupid though, and it creates issues. Why it was even brought up in the op is questionable but that's what I get for letting curiosity get the best of me.
First issue is that because the nukes could do it, we assume everyone was written down severely and thus anyone who has shown above that power should be able to do it.
Second issue is we assume the nukes are actually above these characters and everyone was written properly. Thus the inclusion is meaningless. Which seems odd considering no matter how Ewing was writing him, Galactus was still giving life to planets fairly easily.
What it seems reasonable to do however, is to ignore the things that never attacked or destroyed the shield. Therefore the nukes are irrelevant as is the Galactus statement, as we didn't actually see them fail or suceed. What this creates is an ability to assume the characters were at their best without anything else dragging them down. Quasar destroying the shield was still beyond retarded, but it wasn't as bad if we go by what tried and failed as opposed to what was said. I don't know if the writer just wanted to promote a female or just knew dick all about the Quantum Bands but it wasn't great. We could assume the 30 nukes brought it down from 100 but didn't actually move it that full 1 percent.
So
Surfer can't. Thor might if we go by the Godblast. Odin should be able to, as should Mangog. Galactus
My point is that I don't care about nukes.
The same way I don't care about, say, all of the powerhouses (Hulk Cho, Jane, Hercules etc.) being unable to stop a small asteroid in Defenders.
The same way...etc. You can give countless examples here.
So if I don't encounter rabid fans, I won't even use it as an argument. I wish the forum fights wouldn't degrade to that, but they always do.
I put much more emphasis on how they're portrayed in relation to one another.
It's how I integrate the writer filter. The relative 'hierarchy' tends to be consistent. So while Dan Jurgens' keeps it low level and King Thor passes out trying to rebuild a moon, or whatever, while classic Odin goes galaxy-level, or current Odin headbutts people and whatnot, the relative hierarchy is still intact. King Thor is still more powerful than, say, Surfer, even if cosmic feat for cosmic feat, Jurgens Thor vs Ron Marz Surfer comes out on top. You're a Surfer slurper, so you cling to cosmic showings as much as you can in lack of much else, but still, you see this point of view.
So if, say, there's a showing where a mile wide asteroid comes at 300mph at Earth, and out of a group of Thor, Hulk, Namor, Hercules and Hyperion, none of them can stop it but Hulk, I would like not to go "lol @ how weak all the others are" but "hey, this is a portrayal of Hulk that puts him above the rest. It's just that, under that writer, an asteroid is the level 'heralds' operate at.
But I sometimes do, because I know there's morons who would do so if the reverse is true. I'm Magneto like that.
