What is that stuff MADE of ?!?

Started by DarkSaint853 pages
Originally posted by Galan007
*Carnage

Where is the red? Was Carnage black?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where is the red? Was Carnage black?

Carnage was an African, before he met Michael Jackson who used him as a test subject for the Super White Serum.

So I've finally found something neither you nor Galan are familiar with, D.S.

In point of fact, YOUR guess was the one that was right and it was you who called it, though you did not know it. The Symbiote was retconned back into existence and combined with Eddie Brock to make the once-villain we call "The Lethal Protector" now, Spider-Man's dark, distorted fun house mirror analog, in the Amazing Spider-Man #300:

Wait he looks blonde there

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait he looks blonde there

😂

Have mercy on him.

It rather amazes me to see how well certain aspects of the story arcs of Marvel in the 1980s were thought out and knit together. Note how the answer to the question, "What is Spider-Man's webbing made of?", posed in Spider-Man #257 by Puma, is answered more than FORTY issues later ... and proves the key to bigger, stronger Venom's safe defeat:

Writers did their homework back then!

Source: Amazing Spider-Man #300
Circa: May 1988

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
😂

Have mercy on him.

Well someone is lying to me. That doesn't look like an African American.

Source: Amazing Spider-Man #272
Circa: January 1985

Tags: Slide Slyde Teflon Tallon "Webs? What webs?"

Originally posted by riv6672
Chameleon never said that.
And what in your eyes does "near-equivalent Powers" mean in Cham's context?

I'm still working on what these things are made of --

- the floor in the testing room where all-star Superman was pressing upward with the equivalent force of, what, quadrillions of tons??

- the earth-weight benchpressing machine Nu Superman wasn't getting tired on.

Riddle me those.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
And what in your eyes does "near-equivalent Powers" mean in Cham's context?

I can't know exactly what Riv has in mind, however, being a long time Marvel reader, I can think of why Chameleon's Life Model Decoy (LMD) of the Hulk would not be truly equal in formidability to the actual Incredible Hulk many of us know and love. The LMD could be, and most likely is, static.

Remember that Chameleon is describing his LMDs as a whole. Iirc, there are LMDs of the X-Men and/or some of the rest of the Avengers. Most people probably know of these characters, in-universe, from one or two defining traits and/or their complementary actions. For instance, Cyclops shoots lasers from a mono-slit visor worn over his eyes. Angel flies with Cherub/Seraphim wings. IceMan looks like crystal snow and makes things cold. Shiro makes people hot. Storm makes people wet.

And so on.

Hulk's claim to fame is being strong enough to physically shape the world around him in impossible ways and smash things.
Paint a robot green, give him Moose Mason's dialogue, equip him with servos and hydraulic press devices disguised as digits and limbs, and, you're good to go.

Such an LMD should be able to convincingly display everything you saw in my selection. He's equivalent to Hulk in base level strength, in other words.

However, as most readers know, though this would fool the average resident of the Marvel Universe, this would not be the equal of Hulk. For Hulk has DYNAMIC strength. He can actually exceed his "maximum" calculated levels of power.
The average robot, at least in the Marvel Universe, cannot. He wouldn't get stronger.

Let Peter David illustrate for you through Ben Grimm how a character can figure out that, whatever material a robot is made of, it's NOT necessarily equal to the Hulk in composition:

Source: Incredible Hulk #350
Circa: December 1988

The latest Spider-Man/Deadpool comic should have shown that some of those LMDs are far from their real counterpart.

Blue, do have scans of Cap's shield being made along with the materials?

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Blue, do have scans of Cap's shield being made along with the materials?

I searched and found an entry by Quora for you, following the exchange here between Reed Richards and She-Hulk:

Source: Amazing Spider-Man #259 (?)
Circa:1984

This CapShield origin looks surprisingly old.
I still need to locate what issue it's from.

Surprising to me because I thought Cap's shield was originally adamantium.
If it was, they must have retconned that a fair while ago:

Neat. If you find more, post them up.

Nice to see it being said on panel to be way stronger than adamantium though. You always hear about it, but seeing is believing.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Neat. If you find more, post them up.

Nice to see it being said on panel to be way stronger than adamantium though. You always hear about it, but seeing is believing.

In the following arc from long ago, Molecule Man describes Captain America's shield as even more exotic than Mjolnir, Thor's hammer, OR the board of the Silver Surfer:

Source: The Avengers #s 215 and 216
Circa: January-February 1981