If You Founded a Nation, How Would You Set It Up?

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Originally posted by NewGuy01

So who would be appointing these experts?

Their peers in their respective fields.

I don't know how I'd set up an entire nation, but one thing I know for sure: there would be a mandatory cuckoldry clause.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I don't know how I'd set up an entire nation, but one thing I know for sure: there would be a mandatory cuckoldry clause.
So how would those like Robtard be dealt with?

Originally posted by Kurk
So how would those like Robtard be dealt with?

Is he a cuckold? Because in my glorious nation every person who's officially involved in a relationship would have to be cuckolded at least once a year.

Originally posted by jaden101
Their peers in their respective fields.

...so we'd essentially hold elections that only people of certain occupations can participate in, and then have the winner voted on by congress? Or would we have some government-backed "Society of ____" that would be in charge of selecting representatives?

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Is he a cuckold? Because in my glorious nation every person who's officially involved in a relationship would have to be cuckolded at least once a year.
He lets other men bang his wife, so yes.

Would cuckolding be outlawed? Or a requirement?

Originally posted by BackFire
Would cuckolding be outlawed? Or a requirement?

A requirement.

Well it'll keep the population humble I guess.

Originally posted by BackFire
Well it'll keep the population humble I guess.

Yes, it's a kind of an Orwellian demoralization tactic to keep the cuc- the people in line.

Didn't work out so well in Braveheart, though.

Originally posted by BackFire
Didn't work out so well in Braveheart, though.

That's because the English didn't have telescreens installed in every Scottish household and didn't have a team of these guys ready to spring to action at any sign of dissent.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Interesting. Would you mind laying out more specifically what powers (if any) Congress would have outside of the ability to establish protections? And--assuming the states would be the ones holding the purse--how would the national government enforce those protections? How would foreign affairs (be they diplomatic or military) be conducted and funded?

👆 This isn't necessarily how I'd go about it, but more checks on corruption/money in politics would definitely be my #1 addition to the constitution as it is.

Is there any reason you'd specifically limit it to three, as opposed to more? Not saying I disagree, just curious.

Then what about something along the lines of a negative income tax system?

Couldn't you just have a flat rate with the caveat that a specific amount (what is needed to cover basic necessities) is non-taxable, regardless of how much you make?

So who would be appointing these experts?

😆

You do know none of this real right? We’re just a bunch of people over the Internet shitting out ideas.

Speak for yourself.

Originally posted by BackFire
Speak for yourself.

Alright then

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Interesting. Would you mind laying out more specifically what powers (if any) Congress would have outside of the ability to establish protections? And--assuming the states would be the ones holding the purse--how would the national government enforce those protections? How would foreign affairs (be they diplomatic or military) be conducted and funded?

I'm not an expert on policy, and I wasn't intending to say it as a black and white thing, but moreso with the government set up so the balance of power is more in those directions on those specific types of issues. There would still be a federal tax, I'm just saying entitlement programs like welfare and the like would be devolved to the states rather than federalized. Obviously taxes for things like infrastructure, military spending, federal government expenditures etc. would still get taxpayer funding. I'm definitely not saying no federal taxes.

As far as foreign affairs, I'm a fan of free trade, but I'll admit to a certain level of ignorance on military or diplomatic engagement so I don't really have a well informed opinion to offer there.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
...so we'd essentially hold elections that only people of certain occupations can participate in, and then have the winner voted on by congress? Or would we have some government-backed "Society of ____" that would be in charge of selecting representatives?

No. Because I already said there would be an elected chamber. It'll effectively be like the UK system. The House of Commons that is elected and The House of Lords which is currently a mix of appointed Lords and hereditary peerages. Hereditary lordships are now scrapped though so current Lords who had their position handed down to them will no longer be able to pass theirs down the family line. The appointed ones are currently chosen by the sitting government (although other opposition parties can submit recommendations) but typically they are picked under a guise of how much "public service" they have done which in truth means how much money they have donated to the ruling party.

So instead of a House of Lords I'd have a House of "Minds". A chamber full of people with expertise in all manner of fields. They won't write policy or legislation. That will be the job of the elected House. They will scrutinise it and recommend changes and point out potential consequences of proposed legislation. The elected chamber can then vote on legislation and whether to adopt it with or without the changes.

Re: If You Founded a Nation, How Would You Set It Up?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
If you were responsible for founding a Nation, how would you set it up? The founding document, the structure of government?
like all good nations are set-up, with the judicious use of slaves

If I created my own nation.
First Step.

NOT LET ANY OF YOU INTO IT!!!

Altruistic Dictatorship, I would even wear epaulettes and a flamboyant hat. I would have my own royal guard to protect me which would be bigger and better armed than the national guard. I would also pay the Army well.