You have Zythmnr in your second picture emerging out of the machine(I believe) That mutated Massasi is in fact the Priest you see when Exar Kun is offered as sacrifice to the ancient Sith wyrm.
So, while Sadow's alchemical Sith studies focused on deformation and Force sensitivity imbuing. It's clearly that Freedon Nadd wanted to use Sadow's knowledge to give himself a new body by using Exar Kun's power.
Originally posted by Freedon NaddA new body for Nadd, not a brand new body freshly created.
You have Zythmnr in your second picture emerging out of the machine(I believe) That mutated Massasi is in fact the Priest you see when Exar Kun is offered as sacrifice to the ancient Sith wyrm.So, while Sadow's alchemical Sith studies focused on deformation and Force sensitivity imbuing. It's clearly that Freedon Nadd wanted to use Sadow's knowledge to give himself a new body by using Exar Kun's power.
It's even said that the alchemy was secretly meant to only create beasts to serve Naga. Why would Nadd know any better?
Originally posted by Freedon NaddSo you're saying all that talk about Naga's alchemy and how everything we see was created to be monstrosities when speaking of his alchemy, that lead up to Kun actually using the machine on the priest... was not actually the alchemy Nadd was speaking of?
Besides that, Freedon Nadd had learned about Sith alchemy from Naga Sadow.
So he already knows about Sadow's machines and how they had twisted the Massassi.So it has nothing to do with Sadow's dark side twisting machines.
So not only do you think Nadd could be a midi chlorian manipulator... because of Naga Sadows alchemy. But you also think there is some secret alchemy that Nadd secretly knew about that was a lost art that was making new bodies that needed Exar Kun's power?
You're not trying to wank him or anything but you're actually ignoring the proof in favor of him actually meaning some secret other alchemy that wasn't even hinted at existing. And even though all of this is attributed to Naga Sadow alchemies, somehow this means Freedon Nadd might be able to manipulate mid-chlorians?
What
I basically said this 3 times just to get it out there. Probably start using proof to try and make your point. Actually explain yourself.
Originally posted by AzrongerEeeh, that's not midichlorian manipulation as an actual power, like Plagueis and Sidious could use. It was a virus, there's a big difference.
Nah.https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/azronger/blog/darth-tenebrous-respect-thread-updated/133232/
A new body for Nadd, not a brand new body freshly created.
You do realize if that were the case and Nadd only needed to use those devices. Then, he'd either send his servants or just use the Force to activate those machines since he has the ability to travel via dark side nexuses?
"(...)reborn into a new body."
Pretty sure it's about a brand new body. Otherwise Nadd wouldn't say 'reborn' or 'new'. He'd just say: 'another body'(because 'another' would mean the 'vessel' is already there)
It's even said that the alchemy was secretly meant to only create beasts to serve Naga. Why would Nadd know any better?
Not Sith alchemy. Correction: Naga Sadow's Sith alchemy.
Why would Nadd know any better?
Let's consider the following:
-once he had learned everything from Sadow, he destroyed him
-lived for 100 years
-was renowned as the greatest Sith sorcerer at that time
So everything Sadow knew, so did Nadd.
So you're saying all that talk about Naga's alchemy and how everything we see was created to be monstrosities when speaking of his alchemy, that lead up to Kun actually using the machine on the priest... was not actually the alchemy Nadd was speaking of?
No. As I said before: Sadow's Sith alchemy(those machines) was only capable to deform people into obedient monstrosities and imbue them with Force sensitivity. That's all. Nadd wouldn't need Exar Kun's aid if that were the case.
So not only do you think Nadd could be a midi chlorian manipulator... because of Naga Sadows alchemy.[QUOTE]It doesn't take much to understand that Freedon Nadd was one of the greatest Sith sorcerers and he had learned everything from Naga Sadow. Therefore, he knows what Naga Sadow did. If it is what you claim he would just send his servants on Yavin 4 to do the job. But the fact that he needed a strong Force user's help suggests it isn't about utilizing Sadow's machinery.
[QUOTE]But you also think there is some secret alchemy that Nadd secretly knew about that was a lost art that was making new bodies that needed Exar Kun's power?
Yes. It seems so from the context. Given he was the greatest Sith sorcerer of his time... I doubt he wouldn't delve deeper his studies into Sith alchemy. The context clearly shows it is not about what Naga Sadow did to the Massassi what Freedon Nadd wanted. Freedon Nadd wanted Exar Kun to create a new body.
You're not trying to wank him or anything but you're actually ignoring the proof in favor of him actually meaning some secret other alchemy that wasn't even hinted at existing.
What proof there is to prove the contrary?
Things we know:
-Freedon Nadd sought a powerful Force user to create himself a new body{checked}
-Naga Sadow's studies of Sith Alchemy focused only on altering people's features and turn them into beasts{checked}
-Freedon Nadd had the ability to possess people. He used Transference on the Onderon leaders{checked}
If it was just about enhancing a body's Force connection. He'd just possess another Onderon leader(assemble a group of strong Force sensitives) and go on Yavin 4 to increase his own Force connection.
And even though all of this is attributed to Naga Sadow alchemies,
You miss the context here.
Let me break it for you:
-Sadow used Sith alchemy(via those machines) to turn the Massassi into obedient monstrosities
-Nadd planned to use Sadow's knowledge(that he added to his own knowledge) to have Exar Kun creating him a brand new body. Nadd essentially took Naga Sadow's technique a step further.
somehow this means Freedon Nadd might be able to manipulate mid-chlorians?[QUOTE]If creating a brand new body means manipulating midi-chlorians. Then, yes.
[QUOTE]I basically said this 3 times just to get it out there. Probably start using proof to try and make your point. Actually explain yourself.
My only proof is that Nadd had Exar Kun to give himself a new body by using his master's knowledge.
Whether it's the same thing as how Palpatine or Plagueis did, I don't know. But clearly midi-chlorians are altered here.
Why don't you want to consider that?