Baleman vs. MCU Wilson Fisk

Started by riv66722 pages

Either version of DD is above Bale.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Current Daredevil is a far cry from the version Fisk fought though. He went from having tough fights with Fisk's assassins, in DD S1, to arguably getting the better of Iron Fist, fighting off a pair of immortal ninja masters, and even giving the blatantly superhuman Black Sky a decent fight, in The Defenders. Current Matt would kick his own S1 ass IMO.

Was going to say the same. He's much better now than his season 1 showing. He beats Baleman convincingly.

Yeah but even S1 DD can beat Baleman. As long as both are unarmored. S1 DD doesn't hit that hard and will take time to down Baleman but he's are too skilled and fast for Baleman to keep up. Baleman's opponents literally need to stand still for him to hit them.

Originally posted by Silent Master
How does the extremely slow and unskilled Baleman win?
He's not slow nor unskilled. He has feats to prove that he is fast and extremely skilled.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah but even S1 DD can beat Baleman. As long as both are unarmored. S1 DD doesn't hit that hard and will take time to down Baleman but he's are too skilled and fast for Baleman to keep up. Baleman's opponents literally need to stand still for him to hit them.
Do you know how many times DD has been hit and injured? There is no way Batman isn't landing some good hits. And if Batman has his suit then this fight is spite.

Originally posted by h1a8
He's not slow nor unskilled. He has feats to prove that he is fast and extremely skilled.

So your argument is based on feats and not implied skill or speed, right?

Originally posted by h1a8
Do you know how many times DD has been hit and injured? There is no way Batman isn't landing some good hits. And if Batman has his suit then this fight is spite.

can you post these feats you speak of

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
can you post these feats you speak of
One was already posted on page one.

Batman koed I forgot how many thugs in 12 seconds. That’s speed and skill.

Originally posted by h1a8
Do you know how many times DD has been hit and injured? There is no way Batman isn't landing some good hits. And if Batman has his suit then this fight is spite.

Yes he's been hit multiple times. And all of those people who hit him (even the fodder) all move smoother and faster than Baleman and his opponents who all seem to be doing some kind of stop dance fight scenes.

Baleman stomps Fisk's fat ass and then makes Fisk choke himself.

Originally posted by h1a8
Do you know how many times DD has been hit and injured? There is no way Batman isn't landing some good hits. And if Batman has his suit then this fight is spite.

The only time I can recall him actually being injured by fodder occurred off screen in S1. So, for all we know, he fought 50 guys when that happened. The other notable times he has been hurt (like getting sliced up or the bullet to the head concussion), it was against people like Nobu and Punisher. Whenever fodder has actually gotten him in any kind of trouble (even briefly), he was already tired and hurt beforehand (like the S1 hallway fight with the gangsters or the Dogs of Hell fight in S2), or there was plot involved (like the Hand guys initially being able to hide from his senses). Seriously, look at his very first S1 fight when he is totally fit. He might lack striking/knockout power there to put them down quickly, but none of those guys came close to ever having him in trouble. Or like the 3 cops he also beat in S1, in like 20 seconds or so, while he still had his hands cuffed behind his back.

Current Daredevil is good enough that even the likes of Iron Fist struggled to hit him (even with Danny's 2 cheap shots at the start and finish, Matt landed way more hits during their exchange), or Bakuto and Murakami (despite them fighting him 2-on-1). Even Elektra didn't having the easiest time of it, and she has deflected a bullet with her sword before. Matt's speed, skill, and ability to avoid getting hit has improved tons since his debut.

Originally posted by h1a8
One was already posted on page one.

Batman koed I forgot how many thugs in 12 seconds. That’s speed and skill.

nah it isn;t .. those were canon fodder no name people who just stood there and barely fought back...

Originally posted by Impediment
Baleman stomps Fisk's fat ass and then makes Fisk choke himself.

Well -that- settles it. Fisk wins.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
nah it isn;t .. those were canon fodder no name people who just stood there and barely fought back...

So they purposely got hit? Batman didn't hit them before they can respond?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Baleman's melee skills

Originally posted by h1a8
So they purposely got hit? Batman didn't hit them before they can respond?

dude its true.. its damn true..

Originally posted by Silent Master

h1, look at these..

also remember as I said once before I own the entire trilogy..

Bruce fought no name canon fodder who basically just took his hits and fail down.. as the first gif proves that