Vitiate's Power in the Force - Major Question

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Vitiate's Power in the Force - Major Question

"Lord Vitiate takes command of the Sith Empire, now in shambles following the Great Hyperspace War. He executes the Sith Council and consumes the life force of thousands of Sith Lords in a terrifying ritual that extends his life and vastly increases his capacity as a practitioner of the Force."
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)

We know that after Vitiate has absorbed Medriaas' power he received a massive boost.
But my question would be the following:
-does the boost he benefits end after all?

Let's take a look at Exar Kun's Sith ritual:
-he absorbed the Massassi's lifeforce and he harnessed it in 'preserving' his own spirit alive(initially he stole their lifeforce so he would escape Yavin 4 as spirit and roam the galaxy until he would find a way back to return)
-Palpatine drained the lifeforce of Byss' people and used that energy to reinvigorate himself
-Nihilus used the energy he stole(in some part) to satiate his endless Hunger

So, the question is obvious:

Didn't Vitiate 'waste' those Force reserves that he had stolen on prolonging his life for centuries?

I know it says that it had made him more powerful. But Force energy is Force energy. And he had used it in extending his life span.

The ritual lasted ten days. Lord Vitiate orchestrated the sorcery and the planet Medriaas was consumed by the largest dark side nexus the galaxy would ever see. When the ritual ended, Lord Vitiate emerged as the only survivor. The pain, energy, and suffering of every living entity on the planet fueled his power and would prolong his life for centuries."
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)

That's what I always thought.

Can you please make a post and link mine to yours? Because only now I notice I posted it on the Versus section. Lol

Question Vitiate's Power in the Force - Major Question

Major is usually the first among senior commissioned officers. Above Captain, below Lieutenant Colonel.

NATO code for this rank is OF-3, US military and others: O-4.

Hope that helps.

Make a separate thread and link mine to yours, then, Cap. Nick Fury.

It shouldn't take too much essence tbh. Revan/Scourge lasted a quarter of Vitiate's life, with no significant amount of force essence, needed to do so.

Though, their immortality was clearly different, as Vitiate Drained Revan of his essence.

Scourge's immortality was because of Vitiate. When Vitiate died, Scourge lost it.

Revan lived for three centuries because of the stasis chamber, but he could have hypothetically lived forever in his SoR state.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Scourge's immortality was because of Vitiate. When Vitiate died, Scourge lost it.

Revan lived for three centuries because of the stasis chamber, but he could have hypothetically lived forever in his SoR state.

Eh, his brain/body was still active in said chamber. so he was technically functioning for 300 years.

I like how people avoid the thread's question.

Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
I like how people avoid the thread's question.

Tbh, Vitiate was constantly draining people of their essence, and used a fair bit of his power preforming Rituals. So he should not of lost any power from Nathema really.

Though it's get confusing asf with Vitiate's defeat which proceeded to have Vitiate lose the vast majority of his power. only to gain it back with Ziost/Revans war. which shouldn't in anyway be comparable to Nathema/1300 years of growth.

You mean his 'artificial power'.

I don't think so, once he had that power, it was his.

That does not make any sense. He stole Force energy just like Kun and Palpatine. It's logical those Force reserves would deplete in time if they are used.

Kun's ritual is an unknown, we have no indication of how his power would have been changed had he stayed alive. I take it as he was weakened and lost most of that energy due to his death and the Wall of Light.

Sidious was using generic brand Force Drain, which has never provided a permanent boost to power. Trying to equate Force Drain to whatever it was Vitiate did on Ziost is stupid because what Vitiate did was obviously NOT normal Force drain.

Unique powers and rituals have granted permanent jumps in power in the past. Darth Nihilus' hunger would consume him, but his power (to my knowledge) didn't decrease as a result of starvation, his wound simply grew. The worlds Nihilus drained provided him with permanent power amps, why couldn't Vitiate's Nathema ritual do the same?

Kun's ritual is an unknown, we have no indication of how his power would have been changed had he stayed alive.

Power is power. And Kun depleted that energy in staying alive as spirit. Plain and simple.

Sidious was using generic brand Force Drain, which has never provided a permanent boost to power.

Sidious was using that boost to heal himself, that's why.

Trying to equate Force Drain to whatever it was Vitiate did on Ziost is stupid because what Vitiate did was obviously NOT normal Force drain.

Sure they may be different. But in both cases, energy is stolen. It was stated that Vitiate used the boost to prolong his life and grow his power to perform rituals whereas Palpatine just did it to slowly heal himself(and it wasn't a sudden drain)

Unique powers and rituals have granted permanent jumps in power in the past.

Like?

Darth Nihilus' hunger would consume him, but his power (to my knowledge) didn't decrease as a result of starvation, his wound simply grew. The worlds Nihilus drained provided him with permanent power amps, why couldn't Vitiate's Nathema ritual do the same?

Because Nihilus always drained planets to keep his stolen power in check?