Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
So they were kind of one with the Force Beyond Shadows realm.
Being one with the Force is existing with NOTHING but the Force.
Originally posted by ILS
Spirits clearly have a hierarchy otherwise you wouldn't need two people to defeat Abeloth. That was the entire point of the fight.Tell me where it's said, going against a mountain of evidence, that the Force Essence isn't a reflection of the user. If you say something braindead Bart will ban you.
And Luke and Krayt weren't one with the Force when they were taking on Abeloth, they were just ghost versions of how in tune with the Force they are normally.
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Abeloth is an embodiment of the Force?
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
So are the Ones?
Not exactly. The Father was a celestial who transcended his nature and became a "force-wielder" who literally represents the Force. He's more than just one with the Force, the Force is represented in the physical world by him. He's the Force manifested into a person.
And his children are kind of like that, in that they represent the Force and are "force-wielders", but they weren't all that powerful, at least until they had their abilities enhanced through the font of power and the pool of knowledge.
Abeloth is completely different. She is not a force-wielder, and does not represent the Force. She is the bringer of Chaos and is against both the dark and light sides of the Force.
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Force ghosts can interact with the physical realm, though.
Not exactly. The Father was a celestial who transcended his nature and became a "force-wielder" who literally represents the Force. He's more than just one with the Force, the Force is represented in the physical world by him. He's the Force manifested into a person.
This Force was on dying.
And his children are kind of like that, in that they represent the Force and are "force-wielders", but they weren't all that powerful, at least until they had their abilities enhanced through the font of power and the pool of knowledge.
You do realize that the Ones are just a part of an ancient species of Force wielders? They are/were the last of their species. And it was stated that the Son and the Daughter had their abilities because they drank from the two nexuses whereas the Father(being in Balance) drank from both.
Abeloth is completely different. She is not a force-wielder, and does not represent the Force. She is the bringer of Chaos and is against both the dark and light sides of the Force.
She is the corrupting aspect of the Force.
Tbh, Chaos is part of darkness. So she is kind of the Dark Side incarnate.
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
This Force was on dying.
what?
You do realize that the Ones are just a part of an ancient species of Force wielders? They are/were the last of their species. And it was stated that the Son and the Daughter had their abilities because they drank from the two nexuses whereas the Father(being in Balance) drank from both.
No. Where are you getting this information? The Killiks said that the Force Wielders are what the Celestials become. The Fathe is confirmed to be the most powerful Force user in history, meaning there never were any other Force-wielders. And the Father never used the nexuses.
I think. Did he? I don't think he did. If he did, can you give me a source which proves it?
As far as I've understood it, the Father was powerful because he was a Force-Wielder, not because he used the nexuses. And it would make no sense either, since he was the source of power that fueled the Son and Daughter. And the Father vanished upon death whereas the Son stayed. So there's obviously a difference between what they are.
She is the corrupting aspect of the Force.
Tbh, Chaos is part of darkness. So she is kind of the Dark Side incarnate.
She wants to destroy the darkness. And that's irrelevant. What matters is that she's not the same as a ghost.
Obi-Wan in ANH(?)
He sat on a log, but I'm guessing that was just Luke's way of perceiving him. He wasn't really there in the physical realm. I'm basing that off of the idea that Force ghosts can't exist in the physical realm because that would make no sense in the context of the rest of the lore.