Daredevil Vs Deathstroke

Originally posted by Enzeru
Yeah, because Spider-Man goes around and uses his real strength all the time against his opponents - and especially against fellow heroes - and especially against heroes he has a rather good history with.
If Spider-Man was serious about fighting Daredevil, he would kill him within seconds. He is that much faster and that much stronger.

I haven't followed New 52 Deathstroke at all, but if he is like the pre New 52 version, then he wins it handily. He is a solid 2-3 tonner. He is faster than Daredevil and probably has better reflexes too. He has a minor healing factor and is a strategic genius due to him using 90% of his brain capacity, or something like that.
Deathstroke beat the living crap out of Batman in a fight fight and I would give Batman a good edge over Daredevil in a fist fight too.

An insane, non holding back berserk Spidey is actually one of his only wins over him.

Not to mention, Matt's beaten Fisk, who's super human no matter what official stat books say, and held his own with the best of the best like Iron Fist.

Originally posted by cdtm

An insane, non holding back berserk Spidey is actually one of his only wins over him.

Stop.

Originally posted by cdtm

Not to mention, Matt's beaten Fisk, who's super human no matter what official stat books say, and held his own with the best of the best like Iron Fist.

OH MY GOSH! MATT BEAT FISK! WHAT A BALLER!
And he was at the brink of death afterwards, right?

Wilson Fisk is just a regular human. He is big and strong to a point, where he surpasses peak humans of an average size... but in the end of the day, he is still only a regular human. Spider-Man however...

https://i.imgur.com/bZzPKkd.jpg

In "The Amazing Spider-Man #542" a pissed off Spider-Man beat Wilson Fisk to near death. He never got hit once. He never struggled for a moment. He could have ended the fight much sooner, but he was there to send a message. And once he delivered that message he went away, while Fisk crawled back to his jail cell.

You need to get that idea of Spider-Man actually struggling with someone like Daredevil in a serious fight out of your head - the sooner the better.
If Spider-Man wants Daredevil dead, Daredevil dies. Hell, Spider-Man would do the same to Deathstroke as well, but it would maybe take him a little bit longer than it would for Daredevil.

Deathstroke beats Daredevil. That shouldn't even be debatable.
There are levels to comic book characters and Daredevil is not on Deathstrokes level. Just like Deathstroke is not on Spider-Mans level. Just like Spider-Man isn't on Thors level. And so on.

Just a regular human.

Matt gets terminated.

I stated, that Spider-Man is strong to a point, where he could kill Daredevil with a punch:

I also stated, that Spider-Man is much, much faster than Daredevil

haven't followed New 52 Deathstroke at all, but if he is like the pre New 52 version...He is faster than Daredevil

I also stated that Deathstroke beat the living crap out of Batman:

Anyhow, when i harp on ppl’s responses, its usually interpreted as my favoring one character.

I’m really not.

daredevil wins. his radar senses, agility and reflex will best slade.

Slade is faster and stronger than Matt. That gives him the edge. He also came from the same batch of super soldiers Midnighter came from.

Originally posted by Zack M
Slade is faster and stronger than Matt. That gives him the edge. He also came from the same batch of super soldiers Midnighter came from.

i dont think he will be faster in fighting. matt has radar senses and combined with his reflex and agility that always allow him to hang with spidy. i do believe all those will result in a faster fighting speed for matt.

He's more agile, but not faster. Slade caught Tigorr trying to blitz him. He's also got the upper hand on Black Manta, who also has enhanced speed and strength.

Originally posted by Dareangel
daredevil wins. his radar senses, agility and reflex will best slade.

lmao.. please describe how. in detail.

this will be good.

Originally posted by Zack M
He's more agile, but not faster. Slade caught Tigorr trying to blitz him. He's also got the upper hand on Black Manta, who also has enhanced speed and strength.

but everybody got those kind of feats. gorilla grod catching flash multiple times. daredevil hanging with spiderman and being too fast for namor. eventually it all comes down to stats and majority of feats. matt has super radar senses that allow him to sense attacks and react to them with his above human reflex. combining that with his agility and he is combat wise faster than the average street. now of course, slade is not your average street, however, fighting speed wise, i never saw him presenting anything special that can defy the way fighting speed defies matt.

Originally posted by cdtm
DD and D.

So, triple D. 👆

Hmm... Didn't Caps altered heart rate throw off Matt's senses? If Slades enhancements do the same thing, Matt could have trouble.

Assuming not, I think Matt can take him straight up.

^^^seems like an outlier (the two have fought multiple times, so if this is the only time its ever been mentioned...), and it didnt have DD reaching around looking for him or anything.

Originally posted by riv6672

The scan you posted then shows a fully geared DS doing that. DS doesnt have his gear in this scenario.

What are you talking about? It was a fist fight. Deathstroke didn't use his sword, nor his guns, nor his other gadgets. Or are you arguing that Deathstrokes gloves added some kind of an additional impact dunring the fight?
Old Deathstrokes armor was kevlar... at the very max it was enhanced by promethium mesh, which is one of the hardest substances in the DC universe... but still... only a layer of mesh. That still wouldn't be like as if Deathstroke was wearing a diamond glove and punching Batman in the face.

Daredevil isn't beating Deathstroke and he sure as hell isn't even coming close to beating Spider-Man. In a battle board environment that is. In comics the strangest things can happen.

^^^Take a breath, guy.

-waits-

I’m saying exactly what i said.
DS was geared up in the scan you posted. He’s not in this scenario.

Originally posted by riv6672

I’m saying exactly what i said.

So in other words... Deathstroke without his armor is like Tony Stark without his armor, right? From a 100 tonner to an average guy?

You're not making any sense. You created this bad match up, where one character is clearly over his head and now you're trying to defend your match up with non-arguments.

I'm out.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^seems like an outlier (the two have fought multiple times, so if this is the only time its ever been mentioned...), and it didnt have DD reaching around looking for him or anything.

Not to mention Spidey probably doesn't have a normal metabolism, and it's never been mentioned against him either.

Originally posted by Enzeru
So in other words... Deathstroke without his armor is like Tony Stark without his armor, right? From a 100 tonner to an average guy?

You're not making any sense. You created this bad match up, where one character is clearly over his head and now you're trying to defend your match up with non-arguments.

I'm out.

But hey, you think DA wins. Noted.

Originally posted by cdtm
Not to mention Spidey probably doesn't have a normal metabolism, and it's never been mentioned against him either.

Originally posted by Enzeru
So in other words... Deathstroke without his armor is like Tony Stark without his armor, right? From a 100 tonner to an average guy?

You're not making any sense. You created this bad match up, where one character is clearly over his head and now you're trying to defend your match up with non-arguments.

I'm out.

You said Fisk was a "normal man", and I posted him choke slamming, and nearly strangling Tombstone (Enough to crack Hammerheads cool.)

Do you need proof that Matt is no more a regular guy then Slade is?