Count Nefaria vs Ultraman

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Who wins?

Good fight. When Ultraman crushed BA's jaw was pretty badass and just plain Uber. Nefarias a certified team wrecker though. Not sure.

Yeah, both are pretty powerful.
I’ve often said CN tends to get thrown off his game when he comes up against things he cant straight up steamroll.
I wanna say UM is somewhat the same, from the appearances i’ve read (earlier stuff).

Be interesting to see who punks who!

Is there anything Count Nefaria has done (with the exception of no-selling Thor’s hammer strike) that put him in the league of Ultra Man? I don’t think team wrecking the likes of She Hulk, Hawkeye, Captain America, Iron Man, Wonder Man etc is something that Ultra Man could not EASILY replicate - you have to note that UM was manhandling Black Adam, who is a legit team wrecker himself. Moving away from Ultra Man, even Black Adam would easily ‘wreck’ the same team CN did ...only difference is BA would probably just kill them.

Neither is withstanding a collapsing 40 story building (to take one CN feat) to a character that can move the moon.

Not only don’t I think CN can defeat UM, I genuinely don’t even think CN could defeat BA in the first place.

Not the same Adam and Wonder Woman just easily handled Adam. Great showing for Ultraman but it does not put him above or on Nef level. I'm giving this to Count.

But isn't wonder woman high herald IYO?

She should be in that tier in your opinion as well based off her showings. What does that have to do with what I said though?

Yes Carver, a character that can move the moon with ease is definitely below a character that overpowered the likes of Iron Man, Hawkeye, Captain America and She Hulk.

I think this habit of lowballing characters is quite cool. Why should you have all the fun?

I would say Nef tanking Mjlonir is a better ft than moving the moon with help.

I think its a great fight. Ultraman has the better feats, but i'm not sure Nefaria couldnt replicate them even though he hasent.

Taking Ultraman for slight majority.

^^^thats fair, as the two travel in different circles and all.

Ultraman for the small majority.

Originally posted by carver9
I would say Nef tanking Mjlonir is a better ft than moving the moon with help.

Ultraman had no help of moving the moon.

But knowing you, your about to claim he was dopped up on Krytonite. But know this, Kryptonite is Ultraman’s power source. It’s like me saying the Hulk has help anytime he uses his gamma to amp himself, or Steve being dose with the Super Soldier serum.

Sinestro was also there, no?

Sinestro and Black Adam moved the moon.

Ultraman breaks him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sinestro and Black Adam moved the moon.

This is what I am talking about. I thought Spet was talking about Adam in relation to what I was discussing about Adam.

Originally posted by carver9
This is what I am talking about. I thought Spet was talking about Adam in relation to what I was discussing about Adam.

This is one of two things I don’t like about KMC (the second is that people are simply not objective).

What don’t i like? That people comment about comics they have never read.

I personally have never commented on something I either do not own or haven’t read.

Carver ...you’re a bright guy (and probably the only other black guy on this forum apart from myself). If I say that Ultra Man moves the moon, I don’t mean Black Adam and Sinestro.

I mean UM moved the moon ...all by himself (BA and Sinestro moved it back later, and both had to work together).

When I am wrong, I am wrong. I will hold my hands up.

Sorry, Spetznaz.