We're pretty good

Started by The Ellimist5 pages

We're pretty good

Given all of the often legitimate criticisms of the direction society is headed, can we at least admit that, by almost every objective metric, we are astronomically better off than we've ever been in history?

Whether you're looking at life expectancy, GDP per capita, human rights proliferation, literacy rates, corruption rates, rates of violence, etc., we are either in the middle or the start of a golden age.

Who's "we"?

Originally posted by Kurk
Who's "we"?

I guess only humans, since factory farming is a thing. Or not only us, depending on a bunch of factors.

Re: We're pretty good

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Given all of the often legitimate criticisms of the direction society is headed, can we at least admit that, by almost every objective metric, we are astronomically better off than we've ever been in history?

Whether you're looking at life expectancy, GDP per capita, human rights proliferation, literacy rates, corruption rates, rates of violence, etc., we are either in the middle or the start of a golden age.


By the metrics you listed yes.

Culturally, that's a different story, I think the culture itself is decaying even while we make advancements in technology and economic production.

And in terms of human rights, freedom of speech is being erroded in the rest of the west, the UK in particular.

When do you think we were at our peak culturally?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
When do you think we were at our peak culturally?

Idk, maybe the first decade of the 21st century...?

Interestingly enough many would argue factory farming tied humans to a specific lifestyle where we had to "work" and lost a lot of our freedoms. Some would also argue it restricted our diet and we were as domesticated by the crops we farmed as they were by us. They would also argue they tied us to communal societies and hierarchies. It's all interesting stuff.

not while you’re around

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Idk, maybe the first decade of the 21st century...?
lmao

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Idk, maybe the first decade of the 21st century...?
And could you tell us why you believe that is; knowing fully well you may be influenced by your Texan background?

Re: We're pretty good

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Given all of the often legitimate criticisms of the direction society is headed, can we at least admit that, by almost every objective metric, we are astronomically better off than we've ever been in history?

Whether you're looking at life expectancy, GDP per capita, human rights proliferation, literacy rates, corruption rates, rates of violence, etc., we are either in the middle or the start of a golden age.

Absolutely.

Doesn't mean we still can't improve and need to improve, but we're doing better than we ever have as a whole.

Social Media is a problem though, not sure we've had that kind of oesonal disconnect in such large masses before.

Re: Re: We're pretty good

Originally posted by Robtard
Absolutely.

Doesn't mean we still can't improve and need to improve, but we're doing better than we ever have as a whole.

Social Media is a problem though, not sure we've had that kind of oesonal disconnect in such large masses before.

Agreed, I also think something weird is happening to our youth due to the internet and rolepaying they now obsess about cartoon tweens instead of real women. Instead of having a modern equivalent of a Debbie harry poster at the end of there bed they wank off to pictures of Raven from the teen titans. ****ing ridiculous tbh.

Don't Worry about it. You Leftist Fascists are dong everything you can to get rid of Free Speech. That should solve your "Social Media" Problems up nicely.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Agreed, I also think something weird is happening to our youth due to the internet and rolepaying they now obsess about cartoon tweens instead of real women. Instead of having a modern equivalent of a Debbie harry poster at the end of there bed they wank off to pictures of Raven from the teen titans. ****ing ridiculous tbh.
When I was a late-late teen it was Christina Applegate, Jennifer Anistan, Alyssa Milano and Monica Bellucci, sure I watched cartoons as well, but I wasn't touching myself to them.

Re: We're pretty good

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Given all of the often legitimate criticisms of the direction society is headed, can we at least admit that, by almost every objective metric, we are astronomically better off than we've ever been in history?

Whether you're looking at life expectancy, GDP per capita, human rights proliferation, literacy rates, corruption rates, rates of violence, etc., we are either in the middle or the start of a golden age.

You're kind of right.

1. Rapes are down.
2. Violence is down.
3. Homicides are down.
4. Property theft is down.
5. Your mom is down.
6. War deaths (absolute and per capita) are down.
7. Infant mortality is down.
8. Standard of living is up.
9. Education is up.
10. And life expectancy is up.

Re: Re: We're pretty good

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're kind of right.

1. Rapes are down.
2. Violence is down.
3. Homicides are down.
4. Property theft is down.
5. Your mom is down.
6. War deaths (absolute and per capita) are down.
7. Infant mortality is down.
8. Standard of living is up.
9. Education is up.
10. And life expectancy is up.

No. 5 seems like it doesn't belong

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Idk, maybe the first decade of the 21st century...?

Ah, so when people were oppressed based on their sexual orientation?

Gotcha.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Ah, so when people were oppressed based on their sexual orientation?

Gotcha.


I didn't say that's what was good about it, and you and I have had conversations before where I've flat out said I don't have a problem with homosexuality.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Ah, so when people were oppressed based on their sexual orientation?

Gotcha.

He never said it was perfect.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I didn't say that's what was good about it, and you and I have had conversations before where I've flat out said I don't have a problem with homosexuality.

I never said you were homophobic. It just seems to me your selectively remembering the good things from the good old days due to nolstalgia.

That the main issues you have with American culture don't involve legal oppression speaks volumes of how much we've progressed.