The kid on the far right is this guy:
Seems like he’s doing what he loves and pursuing his dreams, sad to see dapoopy construing the facts to trigger the conservative crowd. ❌
Originally posted by BackFire
And here I am trying to figure out what restaurant they're at.
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Originally posted by Putinbot1
At least these kids aren't like the other type of screwed up, the Incel and killing women with trucks so there is that... Again, I blame the internet more than rightists and leftists, weird shit is the norm for kids today, be it loving a comic character, dressing up as girls or being alt-right or an Incel like many posters here.
On the one hand, you're right and I think it's great that they are having a blast.
On the other hand, they are most likely being indoctrinated by their parents into doing these things at such a young age.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
The kid on the far right is this guy:Seems like he’s doing what he loves and pursuing his dreams, sad to see dapoopy construing the facts to trigger the conservative crowd. ❌
So at 10, he had a burning passion to look like an overdone woman?
That's tough to believe.
More likely, he's a product and experiment. Know anything about his parents?
Likely you don't. 👆
Originally posted by Beniboybling
No I don’t know anything about his parents.I am not the one making assumptions about his parents and their intents. 👆
Sounds to me like you’re struggling to grapple with the idea of a boy being interested in makeup, and are projecting your feelings accordingly. 🙁
Great, I am not making assumptions about his parents, either. Do a bit of research so you don't have to make assumptions. 👆
And it sounds like you're struggling with the idea that prepubescent children may not quite understand adult sexuality unless influenced, quite heavily, but adult minds around them who have that power and authority. This could be considered sexual identify abuse in the future. 👆
They're not hurting anyone; they seem to be enjoying themselves. Really don't see a problem if it's their choice and it more likely is than isn't, as I doubt their parents are forcing boys to wear makeup against their will.
Just seems like an odd scenario if so: "No Billy, I don't care what you want, you're wearing this f*cking makeup and looking sexually ambiguous!" Cos that's some child beauty pageant abusive shit right there is so.
Originally posted by Robtard
They're not hurting anyone;
Right. Which is why I said it looks like they are having a blast.
Originally posted by Robtard
they seem to be enjoying themselves.
Originally posted by Robtard
Really don't see a problem if it's their choice and it more likely is than isn't, as I doubt their parents are forcing boys to wear makeup against their will.
This is where we disagree. This is not how abuse like this works.
Originally posted by Robtard
Just seems like an odd scenario if so: "No Billy, I don't care what you want, you're wearing this f*cking makeup and looking sexually ambiguous!" Cos that's some child beauty pageant abusive shit right there is so.
It's more like, "I think you're a beautiful girl trapped in a beautiful boy's body. You can be both!" Repeat something similar to this thousands of times, put make up on them when they are very young, and strongly encourage them to keep doing this.
Seems like sexual identify abuse to me.
Do you know about the parents? I saw one couple say that they never encouraged it. One of them made it quite clear that they pushed this behavior on the child.
I'm with the first couple: never force this onto them but definitely support your children in harmless endeavors.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah for the record those child beauty pageants are ****ed up IMO
Indeed. Dressing them up in sexual outfits, making your 5 year old gyrate on stage in front of lots of strangers to sex-pop-music, and making them look like contestants on Rupal's show...seems a bit odd.
Just the same as doing it to your prepubescent boys. There's no difference. Seems like sexual identify abuse.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Right. Which is why I said it looks like they are having a blast.This is where we disagree. This is not how abuse like this works.
It's more like, "I think you're a beautiful girl trapped in a beautiful boy's body. You can be both!" Repeat something similar to this thousands of times, put make up on them when they are very young, and strongly encourage them to keep doing this.
Seems like sexual identify abuse to me.
Do you know about the parents? I saw one couple say that they never encouraged it. One of them made it quite clear that they pushed this behavior on the child.
I'm with the first couple: never force this onto them but definitely support your children in harmless endeavors.
What you're talking about if a form on indoctrination and if so, sure, that's abuse. See my 'beauty pageant' comment.
Personally, I don't know the stories of each of these kids, but I see that [indoctrination] being less likely than these boys simply wanting** to do this and their parents allowing it. Indoctrination seems to follow accepted societal standards, though maybe taken too the extreme. Boys playing sports, girls being sexualized etc.
**eg When my daughter was 11-12, she went through a 6-8months phase where she coloured her hair a disgusting green, cut it short, stopped wearing makeup and dressed overall like a slob and mostly masculine, oversized shirts (she'd wear my shirts at times), nothing but black jeans, thick flannels. She looked like shit imho. Then suddenly she was over it and I was so ****ing happy. Grew her hair out, started wearing stylish girl's clothes, makeup (too much at times imo), Sephora is basically her mecca etc. All in all, she went back to being a 'girly-girl' and it was all her choice, I know you know what I mean.
edit: tl;dr version, could just be a phase in these boys' lives
Originally posted by Robtard
What you're talking about if a form on indoctrination and if so, sure, that's abuse. See my 'beauty pageant' comment.Personally, I don't know the stories of each of these kids, but I see that [indoctrination] being less likely than these boys simply wanting** to do this and their parents allowing it. Indoctrination seems to follow accepted societal standards, though maybe taken too the extreme. Boys playing sports, girls being sexualized etc.
**eg When my daughter was 11-12, she went through a 6-8months phase where she coloured her hair a disgusting green, cut it short, stopped wearing makeup and dressed overall like a slob and mostly masculine, oversized shirts (she'd wear my shirts at times), nothing but black jeans, thick flannels. She looked like shit imho. Then suddenly she was over it and I was so ****ing happy. Grew her hair out, started wearing stylish girl's clothes, makeup (too much at times imo), Sephora is basically her mecca etc. All in all, she went back to being a 'girly-girl' and it was all her choice, I know you know what I mean.
edit: tl;dr version, could just be a phase in these boys' lives
We largely agree and I don't know the backstories on almost any of these types.
In The Philippines, beauty pageants for men who do this (not quite transvestites but similar) are very much accepted. The persecution for gay men and alternative lifestyle men is not really there in most places. It's quite open.
But even in rural areas, you still don't see these beauty pageants for boys 7-12.
Do you have any guesses as to why? I have some ideas, of course. But I don't really know.
In the Philippines? From what I've been told from a couple Filipinos I've known, it's not unusual for boys who show 'female' tendencies to be encouraged to express themselves that way in families that have more than one male child.
Basically it's okay to be gay and/or transgender as long as you have at least one brother that can take on the traditional male-role of head of the household should the father lose the ability due to sickness or death.
I think this also varies from province to province, being more or less accepted depending.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Indeed. Dressing them up in sexual outfits, making your 5 year old gyrate on stage in front of lots of strangers to sex-pop-music, and making them look like contestants on Rupal's show...seems a bit odd.Just the same as doing it to your prepubescent boys. There's no difference. Seems like sexual identify abuse.
Yeah, but the episode of Always Sunny about it was hilarious.
Re: In this thread is a photo that will definitely make people like Surtur and DMB mad
Originally posted by dadudemon
12 year old boys in full make-up:Compliments of reddit.
How mad are you?
I would think the REAL Question would be. What Kind of Shit were you looking up on Reddit when you found this Pic?
I bet you have some stuff on your Harddrive that could put you on a few lists.
🤣
Originally posted by dadudemonUh-huh, can you back up your claim that his parents are brainwashers or not?
Great, I am not making assumptions about his parents, either.
Do a bit of research so you don't have to make assumptions. 👆I have done my research thanks, refer to the above article.
And it sounds like you're struggling with the idea that prepubescent children may not quite understand adult sexuality unless influenced, quite heavily, but adult minds around them who have that power and authority. This could be considered sexual identify abuse in the future. 👆Christ. You don't need to have an understanding of adult sexuality to be proficient in wearing makeup, or to take an interest in it. If his actions are sexual in any way, it's because you are actively sexualising him. 😬
Girls younger than 10 take an interest in makeup all on their own, Robtard has just admitted to having had a 10 year old daughter who wears makeup (weird that you did not bat an eyelid at this) and with access to YouTube, Instagram, social media etc. this kid doesn't need indoctrination from his parents to form an interest, and take cues.