Will China win the A.I. race because of Trump?

While China is pledging >100 billion dollars in investment on AI, Trump...hasn't even acknowledged its existence, even when his entire economic focus, working class jobs, is inextricably linked to its rise. The closest we've gotten to a comment from his administration is his treasury secretary claiming that mass automation is "50-100 years away", which might be one of the dumbest lines I've ever heard from a U.S. cabinet member. Likewise, Trump's attack on h1b visas and the general chilling effect on immigration mitigates one of America's biggest trump cards as an international talent attractor.

Remember that, for better or worse (and the safety concerns are very legitimate), A.I. is possibly the single most impactful technology in human history. Is coal mining really more important than it?

Is this a deliberate political strategy or genuine ignorance / arrogance / stupidity?

Honestly, even if Trump wasn't pres, Americans are too stupid for us to ever beat China or Japan at tech.

Ell, are you a Vanu Sovereignty person IRL?

So Trump stalls to replace low paid workers with automation, or replace them with lower paid off shore employees.

Awesome.

*Wait on "But if they put everyone out of work with robots, who will they profit from! Therefore they won't put everyone out of work" arguments*

Look around you. Look at grocery stores in formerly middle class areas. They're switching their focus from the "middle class" to more upscale clients, with deeper pockets willing to spend more freely.

They don't need a healthy middle class or low unemployment to profit. They can just switch their focus to the well to do, all the way up to the 1%.

They're doing that now, and they've been doing it. And they can totally put armies of the working poor out of work completely along the way, just like they did with factory workers.

Originally posted by Kurk
Honestly, even if Trump wasn't pres, Americans are too stupid for us to ever beat China or Japan at tech.

Well that is a Racist Remark if ever there was one...

Fly is afraid of losing his mindless, minimum wage, physical labor job.

Originally posted by Kurk
Fly is afraid of losing his mindless, minimum wage, physical labor job.

Almost as much as I am of Racist Xenophobic Leftists taking over the world.

But I still think you are adorable Kurk.

😱

Originally posted by The Ellimist
While China is pledging >100 billion dollars in investment on AI, Trump...hasn't even acknowledged its existence, even when his entire economic focus, working class jobs, is inextricably linked to its rise. The closest we've gotten to a comment from his administration is his treasury secretary claiming that mass automation is "50-100 years away", which might be one of the dumbest lines I've ever heard from a U.S. cabinet member. Likewise, Trump's attack on h1b visas and the general chilling effect on immigration mitigates one of America's biggest trump cards as an international talent attractor.

Remember that, for better or worse (and the safety concerns are very legitimate), A.I. is possibly the single most impactful technology in human history. Is coal mining really more important than it?

Is this a deliberate political strategy or genuine ignorance / arrogance / stupidity?

He's appeasing his billionaire friends in the right now and not bothering looking to the future. It's all about how much money guys like Robert Murray can make in the short term as coal's a dying industry. So yes, his actions will hurt us in the future where we'll be behind in alternative energies like solar, wind and kinetic and certainly in the AI department which could be integrated into managing/operating those future sources, among the multiple of other segments of society (health, automotive, construction etc). We'll be buying what we need from China instead of selling as a leader to the rest of the world.

Trump should start by first reviewing all the advances in AI made by the previous administration and then work on a plan to build on what was done in the past.

^ Surt thinks he's being clever, doesn't know that Obama was for research into AI.

Obama Wants the Government to Help Develop AI

Obama White House’s final tech recommendation: Invest in A.I.

Barack Obama, Neural Nets, Self-Driving Cars, And The Future Of The World

Originally posted by Robtard
^ Surt thinks he's being clever, doesn't know that Obama was for research into AI.

Obama Wants the Government to Help Develop AI

Obama White House’s final tech recommendation: Invest in A.I.

Barack Obama, Neural Nets, Self-Driving Cars, And The Future Of The World

Not being clever. He should take whatever was done in the previous administration and try to build on it.

But hey you tried.

@kurk I mean the U.S. has been the world leader in technology for quite a while.

I guess I'm a futurist, yeah.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
@kurk I mean the U.S. has been the world leader in technology for quite a while.

I guess I'm a futurist, yeah.

You ever worry that AI will become too advanced?

Originally posted by Surtur
You ever worry that AI will become too advanced?

Nah, we’ll annihilate each other before it comes to that.

Originally posted by SquallX
Nah, we’ll annihilate each other before it comes to that.

That's preferable to being turned into something that wants to scream, but cannot.

Originally posted by Surtur
You ever worry that AI will become too advanced?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
@kurk I mean the U.S. has been the world leader in technology for quite a while.

I guess I'm a futurist, yeah.

Originally posted by Surtur
You ever worry that AI will become too advanced?

I have two worries:

1. That the goals we give the AI will have unintended consequences (classic thought experiment: paperclip company makes AI that has goal of maximizing paperclips, so it turns the entire planet into a bunch of paperclips and starts spreading paperclips throughout the universe)

2. That the wrong people will get to AI first.

The second concern IMHO is less likely than the first one unless if progress in the West stalls significantly.

Originally posted by Kurk
Fly is afraid of losing his mindless, minimum wage, physical labor job.

What if Fly was really black and poor? Would losing his only means of income still be funny?

Originally posted by cdtm
What if Fly was really black and poor? Would losing his only means of income still be funny?

He's still Fly, so yeah.