On avg, probably. But he can easily punch up. He loses a lot of versatility w/o mew mew. No flight, no teleporting, no matter manip, no energy absorb, no shielding(except with axe), no hammer blitz, no a lot of other stuff.
MAG
MagnonSenior Member
Yes, mid-herald. Except abstract level vs. Beyonders and Celestials.
KRI
krisblazeSenior Member
No, not really.
I'd put him at low herald.
SIA
Sin I AMMadame Mort
Originally posted by Dareangel what do you think guys?
trans tier imo
SHA
ShadowFyreSenior Member
Originally posted by Sin I AM trans tier imo
This. He still has the power in him to one shot a lot of heralds without Mjolnir. Good last and norn bolts etc.
DAR
DareangelSenior Member
i mean honestly, without mjonir, he is hercules.... no?
CAR
carver9Senior Member
Originally posted by Sin I AM trans tier imo
OBM
One Big MobDead
I think some mid heralds can survive the sun though. Probably low.
CEL
celeyhyga17Yawning Void
Originally posted by Dareangel i mean honestly, without mjonir, he is hercules.... no?
That's if u don't count his weather powers and haxe weapon(pun intended). He has generally better strength feats too.
PHI
Philosophía"The devil made me do it"
He is low-herald. Would lose to most of them, though.
SIA
Sin I AMMadame Mort
Originally posted by Dareangel i mean honestly, without mjonir, he is hercules.... no?
no. hercules has been regulated to b list. thors energy projection is what gives him a push
PHI
Philosophía"The devil made me do it"
Hercules is not B-list. And he also has his mace within the rankings, so he hits harder than Thor without Mjolnir.
DAR
DarkSaint85Bonified abstract
LEO
leonidasMWHAHAHAHA!
yeah the lightning would still give him a majority over herc i think, but w/o the hammer he is likely low/mid. def not high. he even lamented that he could no longer fly now that the hammer was gone. /shrug
COS
CosmicCometSenior Member
Rhino on a bad day with a flu and a fractured femur would probably knock hammerless thor out 55/100, using his quick footedness and top tier slick boxing skills, the likes of which Asgard has never seen.
CEL
celeyhyga17Yawning Void
😂 At the ground shockwaves...
ZOP
zopzopLord of the Great Abyss
Originally posted by leonidas yeah the lightning would still give him a majority over herc i think
Didn't they retcon Herc into being immune to lightening? Even mortal Herc wasn't fazed by it.