Baby Alfie

Originally posted by -Pr-
Define shithole. It has its issues, and has had some scandals of late in law enforcement in the government, but in general it's as good as most western countries to live in.

Shithole, as defined by websters dictionary: a place where kunts won't whine if you train your dog as a joke to do a nazi salute and where you won't face possible jail time or fines for it

And where they won't whine over rap lyrics either.

https://reason.com/blog/2018/04/23/she-posted-rap-lyrics-to-remember-a-dead

Originally posted by Surtur
Shithole, as defined by websters dictionary: a place where kunts won't whine if you train your dog as a joke to do a nazi salute and where you won't face possible jail time or fines for it

And where they won't whine over rap lyrics either.

https://reason.com/blog/2018/04/23/she-posted-rap-lyrics-to-remember-a-dead

Well if all it takes is a couple of instances of legal lunacy, most western countries are going to fall under the definition of shithole, I would imagine.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Well if all it takes is a couple of instances of legal lunacy, most western countries are going to fall under the definition of shithole, I would imagine.

It's kinda what I'm afraid of, that what is happening in that shithole will spread. It's why it is unwise for folk to dismiss what is going on there as no big deal.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's kinda what I'm afraid of, that what is happening in that shithole will spread. It's why it is unwise for folk to dismiss what is going on there as no big deal.

Sorry, I should have phrased my point differently. I'll try again:

If a few silly court-cases are all it takes to get a country labelled a shithole, then most western countries are also shitholes, and have been for a while. Yours, mine, etc.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Sorry, I should have phrased my point differently. I'll try again:

If a few silly court-cases are all it takes to get a country labelled a shithole, then most western countries are also shitholes, and have been for a while. Yours, mine, etc.

Indeed, and I guess I don't want this shithole to have anymore poop put into it cuz shitholes in Europe take it too far.

Like...stop that shit.

It's funny, because Europe feels the same away about America in a lot of ways.

Ideally, nobody is shitty.

Originally posted by Surtur
Nah, it's a shithole.

Not in the same way Mexico is a shithole(and its not up for debate Mexico is), but still.

It's really no worse than the US all in all. An instance here and there of something you disagree with does not make a country a "shit hole". Saudi Arabia where women are second class citizens and gay people have to hide they sexuality or face prison/death as being the law, yes, that makes for shit-hole conditions.

Mexico, not really a shit-hole either, sure it has its problems' quiet a few of them, but it's not a draconian law country like KSA.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's funny, because Europe feels the same away about America in a lot of ways.

Ideally, nobody is shitty.

I can see that. You guys are prolly like "shit we don't want these dipshits eating tide pods to spread here". I get it.

Stop getting mad over nazi dogs and we will try to stop retarded teens from being retarded. Pinky swear?

Originally posted by Robtard
It's really no worse than the US all in all. An instance here and there of something you disagree with does not make a country a "shit hole". Saudi Arabia where women are second class citizens and gay people have to hide they sexuality or face prison/death as being the law, yes, that makes for shit-hole conditions.

Mexico, not really a shit-hole either, sure it has its problems, but it's not a draconian law country like KSA.

If Mexico is not a shithole why are the caravans not stopping and settling the people in Mexico?

If it's not a big pile of dog shit they can stay there, correct?

EDIT: Brb bro, I look forward to coming back and seeing all the reasons they can't stay in the non-shithole of Mexico.

Originally posted by Surtur
If Mexico is not a shithole why are the caravans not stopping and settling the people in Mexico?

If it's not a big pile of dog shit they can stay there, correct?

Easy: Somewhere having better opportunities for certain people does not make their native country a shitty place on that merit alone.

eg We have people from Norway who move to the US for a better opportunity for them specifically, doesn't make Norway a shitty place because people relocate.

Originally posted by Robtard
Easy: Somewhere having better opportunities for certain people does not make their native country a shitty place on that merit alone.

eg We have people from Norway who move to the US for a better opportunity for them specifically, doesn't make Norway a shitty place because people relocate.

LOL so it's a shithole. You know it, they know it. If they were worried about escaping gangs and shit they'd settle in the first non-shithole.

Moving on, brb.

Originally posted by Surtur
LOL so it's a shithole. You know it, they know it. If they were worried about escaping gangs and shit they'd settle in the first non-shithole.

Moving on, brb.

Stop the silly tactics of ignoring, we're having a friendly discussion. Anyhow: You gave a reason of 'people leave, so that means it's a shit place', I showed you how that logic is severely flawed.

As for your 'they have gangs', okay, so do we, from lowly street gangs to mob crime empires. Also of importance, the biggest/deadliest gangs in Mexico are the drug cartels who thrive they way they do because of the US' love of narcotics. The US is directly linked to Mexico's drug cartel problem; it's a symbiotic relationship, so if they're shitty for that; then so are we.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's really no worse than the US all in all. An instance here and there of something you disagree with does not make a country a "shit hole". Saudi Arabia where women are second class citizens and gay people have to hide they sexuality or face prison/death as being the law, yes, that makes for shit-hole conditions.

Mexico, not really a shit-hole either, sure it has its problems' quiet a few of them, but it's not a draconian law country like KSA.

There is a significant difference in the economy and citizens of the USA vs Mexico. They have lower incomes, lower education levels..pretty much lower everything compared to the USA economically for individuals.

I wouldn't compare Mexico to any predominantly Muslim country where they believe sharia should dictate the law and they want a Theocracy.

When you compare economic mobility and education, yes Mexico is a shit hole compared to the USA(which makes it great for us from the USA to leverage our dollars there.)

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's funny, because Europe feels the same away about America in a lot of ways.

Ideally, nobody is shitty.

Or everybody is.

I mean, Europe isn't really wrong. 🙂

Everybody is shitty.. except maybe Canada. They must be pretty nice people, if everyone's constantly bagging on them.

Originally posted by cdtm
Or everybody is.

I mean, Europe isn't really wrong. 🙂

Everybody is shitty.. except maybe Canada. They must be pretty nice people, if everyone's constantly bagging on them.

Eh, Canada's no better or worse than anywhere else. I liked it.

America has a first amendment that we guard jealously, the UK government oppresses people for their speech.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's funny, because Europe feels the same away about America in a lot of ways.

Ideally, nobody is shitty.

Originally posted by Robtard
Easy: Somewhere having better opportunities for certain people does not make their native country a shitty place on that merit alone.

eg We have people from Norway who move to the US for a better opportunity for them specifically, doesn't make Norway a shitty place because people relocate.

If Mexico aint a "Shithole" then why didn't the "Immigrant Caravan" stop once they crossed the Southern Mexico Border?

Originally posted by Surtur
Why is trying one last treatment that costs the UK nothing a big deal? I do not get it. Why were they so eager for this kid to die?

I don't think the UK should've been as strict as they were, but they honestly didn't do anything wrong. They prevented a loss of resources on a lost cause. It's really sad, but it's the truth.

Originally posted by Surtur
And I still don't believe for a single second if this was Prince Williams kid they would have said "no, you can't try this other treatment".

If Alfie's dad was in a position of power, he'd do that too, but the end result would be the same. So I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Originally posted by MythLord
Because medical expert after medical expert said he couldn't be saved. Hell, didn't the doctors in Italy claim they don't have a cure and would only prolongue the child's painful existance?

I don't think the UK should've been as strict as they were, but they honestly didn't do anything wrong. They prevented a loss of resources on a lost cause. It's really sad, but it's the truth.

Makes NO sense. Why is UK now suddenly so damn concerned about Italy wasting resources?

Lol wait...the "resource" thing falls apart even more when you realize the UK expended its own resources to PREVENT this. Unless the cops they used to protect Alfie once Italy sent a helicopter to UK were just there for free?

If the UK is so worried about resources why are they spending resources to go after people for nazi dog jokes?

And you'd be right, but this is because Prince William is in a position of power, which he'd abuse to get his kid treatment. However, Will would be emotionally compromised. When his kid's life was on the line, he obviously would try anything and everything, but that doesn't mean he'd be objectively right.

If Alfie's dad was in a position of power, he'd do that too, but the end result would be the same. So I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Just noting the obvious I guess.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Ideally No. Realistically on the other hand....

If Mexico aint a "Shithole" then why didn't the "Immigrant Caravan" stop once they crossed the Southern Mexico Border? [/B]

The Mexico shithole defense makes no damn sense. If these people are fleeing gangs and violence and Mexico isn't a shithole? It makes no sense for them not to stay there in the first SAFE non shithole country they come across.

So the "they are fleeing violence!" argument leftists try to use does not work unless you deem Mexico a shithole. Cuz if it's solely about fleeing violence...then the first non-shithole should be the goal.