Wonder Woman VS Thanos (without IG)

Originally posted by FrothByte
If you are going to assume Steppenwolf is a speedster then you need to assume Aquaman is also a speedster since he was matching Steppenwolf. Then we also need to assume the amazons were all speedsters since Steppenwolf wasn't exactly moving faster than him. And if Aquaman was a speedster then Cyborg probably is as well considering he wasn't moving any faster than Aquaman. Then we should probably consider both Ares and Luddendorf as speedsters because they kept up with Diana... even though there was no indication that they had superspeed.

Using their logic, everyone in comics is a speedster. as they have either tagged a speedster at some point or fought someone that has.

To be fair, I'm fairly sure he's just trolling for fun and doesn't actually believe what he's saying.

The problem with MCU is that they don't explode the slow motion effects. Cause if we analyze the different movies we could argue that beings like Thor, Hulk, Vision and other characters are actually speedsters.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The problem with MCU is that they don't explode the slow motion effects. Cause if we analyze the different movies we could argue that beings like Thor, Hulk, Vision and other characters are actually speedsters.

How could you argue that? MCU has had a Speedster and provided feats to prove it. So if those guys were Speedsters, they would show it.

I think the main problem is that the DCEU is just so darn inconsistent with their power levels. I mean, every superhero movie suffers from power inconsistencies but the DCEU is just notoriously bad about it especially when it comes to superspeed.

Yeah I mean Wonde Woman was taking on Doomsday in BvS, then I’m JL she cant even take Steppenwolf. And isnt even capable of hurting Superman.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I think the main problem is that the DCEU is just so darn inconsistent with their power levels. I mean, every superhero movie suffers from power inconsistencies but the DCEU is just notoriously bad about it especially when it comes to superspeed.

Just wait until the Flash becomes like his comic or even CW counterpart. This forum will explode haha

Originally posted by FrothByte
I think the main problem is that the DCEU is just so darn inconsistent with their power levels. I mean, every superhero movie suffers from power inconsistencies but the DCEU is just notoriously bad about it especially when it comes to superspeed.

Then you have people that just straight up lie, like saying that Wonder Woman used superspeed in certain scene, even though she was moving at the same speed as objects moving in the back ground. IOW, at normal speed.

Or the fact that they somehow forget to mention that Ares formed lightning into a bolt and then physical threw it at WW, instead they claim it was normal lightning and thus traveling at 1/3 light speed. They also just assume that lightning fired from a person must travel at the same speed as natural lightning.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Just wait until the Flash becomes like his comic or even CW counterpart. This forum will explode haha

The only hate will be in regards to how bad the movie is.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
How could you argue that? MCU has had a Speedster and provided feats to prove it. So if those guys were Speedsters, they would show it.

Every time Diana moves into a room full of bad guys, they slow the scenes and make it damn obvious she is fast.

Marvel doesn't do that, because it's stupid to make obvious what is already obvious.

Take Captain America for example. The first movie where he is fighting Red Skull's army. He is constantly blocking lasers (which are faster than bullets) and they never SLOW MO the entire scene in order to say, 'Oh he is fast!!!!'.

It's stupid.

Same thing with Thor. Same thing with Gamora and the other fighters.

Just because a scene isn't in slow motion doesn't mean they aren't fast!

Take Hela's fight in Asgard for instance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuh2DE-vEso

Asgardians are beyond humans in every aspect (speed included). Yet Hela is dodging and blocking blasters like if kid's play. Just because the scene isn't in slow motion doesn't mean WW is faster than Hela or that Hela isn't a speedster.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Every time Diana moves into a room full of bad guys, they slow the scenes and make it damn obvious she is fast.

Marvel doesn't do that, because it's stupid to make obvious what is already obvious.

Take Captain America for example. The first movie where he is fighting Red Skull's army. He is constantly blocking lasers (which are faster than bullets) and they never SLOW MO the entire scene in order to say, 'Oh he is fast!!!!'.

It's stupid.

Same thing with Thor. Same thing with Gamora and the other fighters.

Just because a scene isn't in slow motion doesn't mean they aren't fast!

Take Hela's fight in Asgard for instance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuh2DE-vEso

Asgardians are beyond humans in every aspect (speed included). Yet Hela is dodging and blocking blasters like if kid's play. Just because the scene isn't in slow motion doesn't mean WW is faster than Hela or that Hela isn't a speedster.

I dont consider Diana a speedster. Flash, Superman, Quicksilver(Fox and MCU). Those are speedsters. Unable to see them so thats why they slow down the scene otherwise to do what they do you wouldnt be able to see it happen.

Diana. Hela and others are fast but not Speedster fast. Captain America has been amped a bit but is in realltlypeak human and probabaly runs about 80 MPH tops. Nowhere near speedster or a speed humans cant perceive.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Just wait until the Flash becomes like his comic or even CW counterpart. This forum will explode haha

They'll probably dumb down Flash every other scene just to make him seem interesting at that point. That's basically what the TV show is doing.

Originally posted by FrothByte
They'll probably dumb down Flash every other scene just to make him seem interesting at that point. That's basically what the TV show is doing.

DC fanboys think power = good story. If Shaq had destroyed a moon during the movie Steel. DC fanboys would give it a 5 star rating and would be calling it a classic.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
I dont consider Diana a speedster. Flash, Superman, Quicksilver(Fox and MCU). Those are speedsters. Unable to see them so thats why they slow down the scene otherwise to do what they do you wouldnt be able to see it happen.

Diana. Hela and others are fast but not Speedster fast. Captain America has been amped a bit but is in realltlypeak human and probabaly runs about 80 MPH tops. Nowhere near speedster or a speed humans cant perceive.

Well that's a thing too. What do you call speedsters?

To me a speedster is anything that is beyond human to a point in where you can do stuff that normal persons would find impossible. Like dodging bullets, or fighting 10 persons at the same time without even getting punched/touched.

Originally posted by Silent Master
DC fanboys think power = good story. If Shaq had destroyed a moon during the movie Steel. DC fanboys would give it a 5 star rating and would be calling it a classic.

DC always had trouble with power caps (or the lack of). This can be traced all the way back to Adam West Batman and Reeve Superman. Awesome powers is great for making fanboys cream... not so great for good storytelling.

One of the main reasons why the TDK trilogy was so successful is because they stripped down Batman. Made him extremely crappy for vs. fights but made for a great storyline.

The two are not mutually exclusive though

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
The two are not mutually exclusive though

Tell that to DC, for the most part it seems like they can only do one or the other.

Originally posted by FrothByte
That's an assumption. You'll need to prove it. Besides, it doesn't make sense. Why would Steppenwolf hold back that much? It also still doesn't explain how Steppenwolf kept up with both WW and Aquaman when there's no indication that Aquaman was ever a speedster. Either all of them were moving at superspeed - in which case you'd need an explanation of why Aquaman is a speedster - or all of them were not moving in superspeed.

What you're asking me is like asking why prime Mike Tyson wouldn't go all out against a random street bum. He just doesn't need to. Steppenwolf may have been a shitty villain, but he did match the entire League without Superman. He was definitely powerful.

We've seen Wonder Woman move at super speed in two different movies, we've never seen Thanos react to anyone that fast. That's all that really needs to be said, but marvel fanboys can't accept the final boss of their movies could lose so easily.

PS. I hate DC too. Comic book movies are total garbage.

Originally posted by Psychotron
What you're asking me is like asking why prime Mike Tyson wouldn't go all out against a random street bum. He just doesn't need to. Steppenwolf may have been a shitty villain, but he did match the entire League without Superman. He was definitely powerful.

We've seen Wonder Woman move at super speed in two different movies, we've never seen Thanos react to anyone that fast. That's all that really needs to be said, but marvel fanboys can't accept the final boss of their movies could lose so easily.

PS. I hate DC too. Comic book movies are total garbage.

Thanos breaks Diana's neck and then rapes her to balance the DC Universe.

After that, you can have your turn with Diana 😂

If Diana can consistently view bullets in slow motion then there is no reason why she wouldn’t view Thanos as almost a statue here.

If you are a proponent of the stance that Thanos will tag her then you MUST be a proponent of the stance that Diana will not view Thanos as almost a statue. And if that’s the case the you MUST be a proponent of the stance that Diana can’t view bullets in slow motion.

Therefore, you would have reached a contradiction as it is an established fact that a Diana sees bullets in slow motion.

^ So why hasn't Diana consistently used her superspeed against her opponents then?