How does the Mad Titan fit in the super villain pantheon?

Originally posted by operator616
We're arguing different points. Your problem with this is relatability. Which has nothing to do with being justifiable (realism), or at least not in the context im arguing for. Thanos' motivations are not relatable to you so you want a better motivation for the sake of better story telling, i completely understand where you're coming from. So this becomes a matter of pure subjectivity at this point.

I wouldn't say it's relatability actually. I don't care about Thanos beinng relatable or not (it's better if we understand what he wants, but that's a fraction of what motivations need to be), I don't think he should necessarily fit a mentality that people would identify with. I think his goals and motivations should make for a richer storytelling.

Yes, I was under the impression we are not exactly arguing about the same thing since my last reply.

Originally posted by operator616
Eh, i remember it specifically being described that Kang's motivation for conquering other eras and entire galaxies, in fact, is solely because of thrill seeking. So you could just as easily say he has a compulsive fixation for thrill seeking. Conquest and becoming a legend is a by-product of that obsession with thrill seeking.

Nah, that's just lowering Kang to the level of some Batman villain. He has actually shown several times that Conguest and risk are not the essence of what he does, he often goes against his own nature for his higher purposes. But Kang has been writen in a lot of ways and by lots of people, so I get why you would have that impression.

Originally posted by operator616
Kang literally enslaves trillions of people for his thrill seeking motivations, but he does get a pass, right? Because apparently, that's not "twisted" at all.

I don't care about the morality of the characters, it's all about the potential of tales and situations they bring up. There is a lot of potential to build from Kang's motivation and background, by your own admission he has trillions of enemies out there... Or does he also have adorators in those numbers? Is he always the Invader or at times the Liberator?

Thanos is probably the best MCU villain to date. Other good ones include Killmonger, Obadiah Stane, Red Skull, Loki, brainwashed Winter Soldier, Zemo and Vulture to name a few. Ultron is also good (not as good or as fleshed out as I wanted but still pretty good).

Anyway, it won't matter because when the MCU finally released Dr. Doom, he'll be the best 😉

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thanos is probably the best MCU villain to date. Other good ones include Killmonger, Obadiah Stane, Red Skull, Loki, brainwashed Winter Soldier, Zemo and Vulture to name a few. Ultron is also good (not as good or as fleshed out as I wanted but still pretty good).

Anyway, it won't matter because when the MCU finally released Dr. Doom, he'll be the best 😉

Is just that you can't compare Doom with Thanos. Not really.

Is like comparing the Joker with Darkseid.

Doom is the intellectual and evil-hatred villain. Thanos is pure death, he just loves killing and conquering. Though MCU Thanos is much different than Comics Thanos.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Is just that you can't compare Doom with Thanos. Not really.

Is like comparing the Joker with Darkseid.

Doom is the intellectual and evil-hatred villain. Thanos is pure death, he just loves killing and conquering. Though MCU Thanos is much different than Comics Thanos.

1. Supremely intelligent
2. Super Powerful
3. Resourceful
4. Speech patterns somewhat similar
5. Both act in mysterious ways. Have both played Hero and villain when the mood suits them.
6. Oh, and they look badass (that's important 😉 )

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
No, Joker is nothing like Darkseid. You can compare Doom and Thanos in the comics however. They are alike in MANY ways.

1. Supremely intelligent
2. Super Powerful
3. Resourceful
4. Speech patterns somewhat similar
5. Both act in mysterious ways. Have both played Hero and villain when the mood suits them.
6. Oh, and they look badass (that's important 😉 )

Agree. But characterwise they are different.

Doom is more like the evil dude whose constantly looking to surpass the heroes. He's also got an obsession with Reed just like Joker has an obsession with Batman. Doom is the cheater and is always looking for ways to outsmart his opponents.

Thanos is just the Mad Titan. He aint bad because he wants to surpass someone, or cause he hates Earth and it's heroes. He is just bad. He just enjoys killing and massive genocide. He loves Mistress Death and everything (Or at least) he does is due to her. Thanos is just insane.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Agree. But characterwise they are different.

Doom is more like the evil dude whose constantly looking to surpass the heroes. He's also got an obsession with Reed just like Joker has an obsession with Batman. Doom is the cheater and is always looking for ways to outsmart his opponents.

Thanos is just the Mad Titan. He aint bad because he wants to surpass someone, or cause he hates Earth and it's heroes. He is just bad. He just enjoys killing and massive genocide. He loves Mistress Death and everything (Or at least) he does is due to her. Thanos is just insane.

Thanos really is Doom's intellectual superior due to him actually being able to live with the fact Reed will always be smarter than both 👆

Originally posted by Bentley
Thanos really is Doom's intellectual superior due to him actually being able to live with the fact Reed will always be smarter than both 👆

Greatest villain of all time. Bar none.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Agree. But characterwise they are different.

Doom is more like the evil dude whose constantly looking to surpass the heroes. He's also got an obsession with Reed just like Joker has an obsession with Batman. Doom is the cheater and is always looking for ways to outsmart his opponents.

Thanos is just the Mad Titan. He aint bad because he wants to surpass someone, or cause he hates Earth and it's heroes. He is just bad. He just enjoys killing and massive genocide. He loves Mistress Death and everything (Or at least) he does is due to her. Thanos is just insane.

Agreed that him and Thanos are different. They are similar in some respects (definitely enough to be compared), but the core of their characters are completely different. Doom always does what he does for himself, going so far as to sacrifice those loves in pursuit of his own interests. Thanos always has an outside motivator, whether it's to please lady death (love) or to save the civilizations of the universe (utilitarianism).

Anyway, Thanos is the best MCU villain so far. The Russos did him justice. I hope he's not beaten too cleanly in the next movie. At least one of the big Avengers needs to go down.

Thanos has set a very high bar