Jedi ranking during TCW?

Started by Mendax1 pages

Jedi ranking during TCW?

I know the Jedi were Generals in the grand army of the Republic, but did they hold top rank on the battlefield? I ask because it seemed like they could walk into almost any battle and take full command.

"So if you're a captain, and I'm a jedi, then technically I outrank you, right?"
- Ahsoka to Rex, TCW Movie

"Admiral, you must abandon ship.
Not a chance.
But sir, with respect, that's an order!
-It may be your command, but it's my ship!"

Anakin to admiral Kilian

So unless there's a ranking higher than admiral that I'm not thinking of, Jedi appear to out-rank anyone; even if they're a f*cking padawan lol.

Yeah, Admirals and above outranked Jedi in military matters.

Clone: "General Skywalker... Admiral Tarkin has ordered that no one be allowed in there."
Anakin: "I don't care what she's been accused of! Let...Me...In!"
Clone: "Sorry, sir... The Admiral's orders stand. This is now a military operation, and under HIS jurisdiction."

*Anakin is escorted out of the facility*

-TCW S05E18

That’s debatably just because the Jedi were stripped of authority in regards to Ahsoka’s case though, not necessarily because they didn’t outrank Tarkin. As Kurk mentioned, we see a lot of cases where the Jedi outrank Admirals.

The Jedi hadn't yet been formally stripped of any authority regarding Ahsoka, because Ahsoka herself was still recognized as a Jedi/Padawan at that point in the story.

The scene I quoted simply came down to a General being overruled by the standing orders of an Admiral.

Ergo:
"This is now a military operation, and under [Tarkin's] jurisdiction."

Originally posted by Kurk
So unless there's a ranking higher than admiral that I'm not thinking of, Jedi appear to out-rank anyone; even if they're a f*cking padawan lol.

Nah, Padawans are commanders, above captains but beneath admirals.

Wait - Anakin was about to meet Thrawn? O_0

G-canon, D-canon or Legends?

Originally posted by Galan007
The Jedi hadn't yet been formally stripped of any authority regarding Ahsoka, because Ahsoka herself was still recognized as a Jedi/Padawan at that point in the story.

The scene I quoted simply came down to a General being overruled by the standing orders of an Admiral.

Ergo:
"This is now a military operation, and under [Tarkin's] jurisdiction."

It was a military matter and considering that it was thought to be from one of their own (which it was in Barriss) they probably wanted to keep Ahsoka isolated from any other Jedi.

It was a blanket order, though -- it didn't single out anyone in particular: "Admiral Tarkin has ordered that no one be allowed in there."

If Anakin held higher authority than Tarkin, the Clone likely would have allowed him to enter... We've seen this happen before in canon:

"I am Commodore Thrawn," Thrawn said. "I wish to enter."

"I'm sorry, sir, but I have my orders straight from Coruscant," said the Stormtrooper.

"I am giving you new orders, Stormtrooper," Thrawn said. "The passengers are gone. The secrecy you were ordered to maintain concerning the Sempre is no longer an issue. Imperial officers and crew are dead, some of your own colleagues among them. Justice and retribution for the attack depend upon
information. Some of that information lies behind you through that hatchway."

"I'm sorry, sir, but I HAVE MY ORDERS," the Stormtrooper said again, brashly.

"I am YOUR commander, Stormtrooper," Thrawn said. "You WILL step aside!"
{Vanto twitches at the sudden volume and vehemence. The Stormtrooper likewise reacts with surprise. He hastily steps away from the hatchway and allows entry.} "Thank you," Thrawn said.

-Thrawn

That said, I suppose this IS Tarkin we're talking about. The dude has always seemed to hold more sway/influence within his rank than everyone else, so maybe *that* is the reason why Anakin had to acquiesce to his orders in that instance... Perhaps a different Admiral wouldn't have held an equal level of authority there. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
The Jedi hadn't yet been formally stripped of any authority regarding Ahsoka, because Ahsoka herself was still recognized as a Jedi/Padawan at that point in the story.

The scene I quoted simply came down to a General being overruled by the standing orders of an Admiral.

Ergo:
"This is now a military operation, and under [Tarkin's] jurisdiction."

They could have been, just not in the conventional sense. You can strip someone of authority by stripping everyone of it. The prison is specifically said to be under Tarkin’s jurisdiction, so it’s likely he was assigned direct control over the facility since he was acting as the military representative for the whole affair.

I doubt Anakin could have just asked Yularen to change the order, for example. I doubt all admirals and generals would be outranked by Tarkin when it comes to the running of that facility.

You mirrored almost exactly what I just said above. 👆