Chancellor Palpatine and Darth Vader vs Sorcerer Supreme Doctor Strange...

Started by quanchi1123 pages

Originally posted by relentless1
Sidious tossing the Senate pods like baseballs in ROTS is very much on Maws level, as is Vaders manhandling of an At St in Rebels.. which is canon to the character so it does count
The pods took time and we see Yoda outmaneuver them. Maw was quicker, far more precise, and on another level than Sidious.

lol the pods took no time at all for him to throw, he picked them up like you'd pick a plate up off the dinner table lol. And Yoda dodging them is a credit to his skill not a detriment to Sidious.

Originally posted by relentless1
lol the pods took no time at all for him to throw, he picked them up like you'd pick a plate up off the dinner table lol. And Yoda dodging them is a credit to his skill not a detriment to Sidious.
Watch it again. Comparing Sidious using tk to Maw is just sad for Sidious. Just leave it alone.

I think you should watch it again, the guy was laughing and throwing tons worth of senate pods casually lol. Ebony Maw had great control over his tk and also lifted heavy objects with ease; they are about even in that regard so I stand by my statement that the Sith would destroy Strange

Originally posted by relentless1
I think you should watch it again, the guy was laughing and throwing tons worth of senate pods casually lol. Ebony Maw had great control over his tk and also lifted heavy objects with ease; they are about even in that regard so I stand by my statement that the Sith would destroy Strange
False. Watch it again. Maw was on another level operating at higher levels with greater precision.

The more important aspect of the Siths TK ability which is being ignored here is they can choke out their opponent so from Many Light Years away - see TCW S6, where Sidious effortlessly chokes Count frigging Dooku from another system. Or Rebels S6, where Palpatine again uses TK in front of Ezra from many star systems away.

So Strange can cancel blasts from the IG but not from these 2....yeah sure...

Originally posted by Darth Thor
The more important aspect of the Siths TK ability which is being ignored here is they can choke out their opponent so from Many Light Years away - see TCW S6, where Sidious effortlessly chokes Count frigging Dooku from another system. Or Rebels S6, where Palpatine again uses TK in front of Ezra from many star systems away.
They are in the same room and strange can use portals to reach them anywhere. That isn’t relevant since they are in close proximity.

Originally posted by deathslash
😂 is this guy serious?

Strange has no defense against a force choke. Either Sidious or Vader could solo with ease.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Please Maw was on another level with tk to make Vader or Sidious masturbate to his skills.

Maw isn't able to telekinetically choke people to death. Strange has no way to defend against that.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Strange has no defense against a force choke. Either Sidious or Vader could solo with ease.
Yes, he does. He can counter. He also can use the time stone. This is just stupid claiming a master of the mystic arts can’t destroy one of the weakest and slowest Sith Lords of all time. MCU>>>>>Star Wars. Two completely different scales of power.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Maw isn't able to telekinetically choke people to death. Strange has no way to defend against that.
Yes, he does. He can attack the guy concentrating to do so to break the concentration. Maw showed tk that would make Vader marvel at. Much better with tk. Vader couldn’t even beat some rebels at the end of rogue one to take the disk. He failed. For ****s sake Maw would have had that disk in no time.

So how is strange going to get them? Let's ignore maw for now. He has his whip/shield magic stuff. That's comparable to a lightsaber I say. He has his mirror realm portal thing. That won't work as the sith can choke people out over great distances and the mirror world would still give them line of sight. He has his sling ring, but force users can see the future and react before things happen (the whole reason Anakin was able to ood race). He has his clones, but force users can read minds so finding the original wouldn't be too much of a hassle. I'm trying to remember what else he did, but that's all i got. He could probably take one with Lord, but two ate going to overwhelm him.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
So how is strange going to get them? Let's ignore maw for now. He has his whip/shield magic stuff. That's comparable to a lightsaber I say. He has his mirror realm portal thing. That won't work as the sith can choke people out over great distances and the mirror world would still give them line of sight. He has his sling ring, but force users can see the future and react before things happen (the whole reason Anakin was able to ood race). He has his clones, but force users can read minds so finding the original wouldn't be too much of a hassle. I'm trying to remember what else he did, but that's all i got. He could probably take one with Lord, but two ate going to overwhelm him.
So suddenly they see the future but Palpatine can’t see Vader betraying him. Vader can’t see kenobi cleaving his limbs off despite Kenobi warning him not to try it.

They’d be screwed in the mirror verse. In the midst of combat bullshit. Sidious was unaware of where Yoda was with one jump off a pod so please stop with your clear fanboyism. I can give numerous examples of Jedi and Sith being confused and react very slowly compared to Strange. The cloak can disarm them as well. They lack anywhere near MCU superhuman strength. He’d decimate both of them. Vader is slow and Sidious’ body is frail and very weak. One kick disarmed him so it won’t take much force.

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Originally posted by Rebel95
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Concession accepted.

How the deuce is a magic cape supposed to disarm their laser swords that can cut anything?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
How the deuce is a magic cape supposed to disarm their laser swords that can cut anything?
It knocks it out of his hand and then won’t allow him to use it. Or it covers his face.

Summoning a lightsaber and fighting blind is Jedi 101. Padwans could do it. Vader even purposefully throws it at stuff because he can guide it with the force.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Summoning a lightsaber and fighting blind is Jedi 101. Padwans could do it. Vader even purposefully throws it at stuff because he can guide it with the force.
The cape is forcing him to the ground it isn’t just blind. Have you seen the film? Katina gave Drax issues and he’s incredibly superhumanly strong and durable unlike Anakin and Sidious. Have you seen the film?