IM w/ nanosuit vs. regular Thor

Started by juggerman22 pages

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Hardly doubt so. If Thor would have been defeated with the Power Stone he would have said so in his conversation with Rocket.

I also don't believe The Black Order interfered. Because again, Thor wasn't like,"Thanos is a cheater, without his B.O or Power Stone he couldn't have defeated me'.

Also, we saw Thor giving a few punches to Thanos in the back with him only laughing.

No one person that was beaten by Thanos when he used the stones complained about his cheating. And since when does Thor go into details about fights? Especially ones he loses?

You're making a lot of assumptions here. I'm saying it's possible Thanos used the power stone to fell Thor. We can't know for sure but seeing as how he used stones against everyone else except Hulk, it's likely he did.

With that being said, I'm not saying Thanos needed to use it, just that he likely did

I'm sure Thanos used the Power stone against Thor. Thor was already stronger than Hulk at the end of Ragnarok. Also, why the **** was Hulk hiding the entire time? While all of Asgard is getting wrekt Hulk was just hiding waiting for an ambush? Not very smart. Should have double teamed Thanos with Thor...

Yeah I found that weird. WTF was Hulk doing during that little speech? He was probably hiding behind a pillar waiting for Loki to introduce him.

"Hurry up Loki, Hulk has to pee!"

😂

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Condolences for Thor beating Thanos and proving himself to be by far the most powerful hero in the MCU?

Urm okay.

Keep crying about Pussy Hulk 😂

Either way. If thats your way of saying you were wrong and that you concede your points then i accept it.

Originally posted by juggerman
No one person that was beaten by Thanos when he used the stones complained about his cheating. And since when does Thor go into details about fights? Especially ones he loses?

You're making a lot of assumptions here. I'm saying it's possible Thanos used the power stone to fell Thor. We can't know for sure but seeing as how he used stones against everyone else except Hulk, it's likely he did.

With that being said, I'm not saying Thanos needed to use it, just that he likely did

You too. And i remind you Thanos is claimed the strongest character in the entire Universe which automatically puts him above Thor.

So my assumption that Thanos doesnt need the Stones to defeat Thor is better placed than yours.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I'm sure Thanos used the Power stone against Thor. Thor was already stronger than Hulk at the end of Ragnarok. Also, why the **** was Hulk hiding the entire time? While all of Asgard is getting wrekt Hulk was just hiding waiting for an ambush? Not very smart. Should have double teamed Thanos with Thor...

Your assumption is valid though unlikely.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You too. And i remind you Thanos is claimed the strongest character in the entire Universe which automatically puts him above Thor.

So my assumption that Thanos doesnt need the Stones to defeat Thor is better placed than yours.

He was already stronger than Drax yet used a stone against him, he was already stronger than Mantis yet used a stone against her, he was already stronger than the entire Avenger line up at the end yet used a bunch of stones to wade through them, and so on. Just because he doesn't need to use them doesn't mean he wouldn't as we've seen him do time and again. Unless of course you believe Drax would have worked him and that he couldn't pull Nebula apart without the stones

You're making an unfounded assumption with no evidence to back it up. I'm saying he could have used it and given how he almost always did use them, it's more likely he did than did not

I'm hoping that we see a bit of the fight at least with the deleted scenes. Russos said there would be a lot of deleted scenes added onto the blue ray. I want to see Thanos take Xandar and fight Thor (the first time). But again, seeing as Hulk waited till the last second to fight I'm guessing we won't see any deleted fight scenes there...

Originally posted by juggerman
He was already stronger than Drax yet used a stone against him, he was already stronger than Mantis yet used a stone against her, he was already stronger than the entire Avenger line up at the end yet used a bunch of stones to wade through them, and so on. Just because he doesn't need to use them doesn't mean he wouldn't as we've seen him do time and again. Unless of course you believe Drax would have worked him and that he couldn't pull Nebula apart without the stones

You're making an unfounded assumption with no evidence to back it up. I'm saying he could have used it and given how he almost always did use them, it's more likely he did than did not

Yet he didnt for Hulk. Who he knew considered himself a top gun.

Thor also considered himself a top gun. Its obvious Thanos would like to brawl him like he did with Hulk.

Again. Not with the Hulk whi is 》》》》 drax and he didnt use it. So your analogue is erroneous.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yet he didnt for Hulk. Who he knew considered himself a top gun.

Thor also considered himself a top gun. Its obvious Thanos would like to brawl him like he did with Hulk.

Again. Not with the Hulk whi is 》》》》 drax and he didnt use it. So your analogue is erroneous.

Hulk was the ONLY fight we see him not use one for. There is no reason to think he did it with Thor since the other 90% he used it at any opportunity.

You're attributing a mindset to him that we don't see. We could just as likely assume he wanted to end the conflict ASAP and get the Space Stone right away so he used it. We just can't say. And other people tried to fight him straight up and he used the stones so again you have no real point of reference.

Ironman used his repulsors in basically every fight he's been in. Wouldn't it be fair to say that if he had a fight offscreen, he would have likely used them? Of course it's not a 100% certainty, but we could make an educated guess. You OTOH are basically just disregarding the majority of showings to make the one instance the rule instead of the exception.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I'm hoping that we see a bit of the fight at least with the deleted scenes. Russos said there would be a lot of deleted scenes added onto the blue ray. I want to see Thanos take Xandar and fight Thor (the first time). But again, seeing as Hulk waited till the last second to fight I'm guessing we won't see any deleted fight scenes there...

Maybe it'll explain why Hulk waited until he was announced. Xandar would interesting too

Originally posted by juggerman
Hulk was the ONLY fight we see him not use one for. There is no reason to think he did it with Thor since the other 90% he used it at any opportunity.

You're attributing a mindset to him that we don't see. We could just as likely assume he wanted to end the conflict ASAP and get the Space Stone right away so he used it. We just can't say. And other people tried to fight him straight up and he used the stones so again you have no real point of reference.

Ironman used his repulsors in basically every fight he's been in. Wouldn't it be fair to say that if he had a fight offscreen, he would have likely used them? Of course it's not a 100% certainty, but we could make an educated guess. You OTOH are basically just disregarding the majority of showings to make the one instance the rule instead of the exception.

There is more reason to think he didn't that he did.

1. Thor punched Thanos several times with him only laughing
2. Thor never claimed to have lost to the BO or the Gauntlet. He said, 'He hasn't faced me twice'. He never said. 'THEY haven't faced me twice' or , 'He has never faced me without the gems'.
3. Thanos beat Hulk in less time that Thor did in Ragnarok.
4. Thanos wasn't even stressing with Hulk
5. Hulk was afraid of Thanos, whereas in Ragnarok Hulk even Mocks Thor after their fight.
6. Thanos is proclaimed the most powerful being in the Universe.
7. Thanos faced IM, Dr. Strange, Drax, Spiderman, and Peter at the same time without using the Gauntlet and still showed superiority until Mantis slept him.
8. Thanos is clearly more durable than Thor. He is also clearly the better warrior and the strongest.

If that ain't enough support to say that Thanos didn't use the gem then You are senile boy

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
There is more reason to think he didn't that he did.

1. Thor punched Thanos several times with him only laughing
2. Thor never claimed to have lost to the BO or the Gauntlet. He said, 'He hasn't faced me twice'. He never said. 'THEY haven't faced me twice' or , 'He has never faced me without the gems'.
3. Thanos beat Hulk in less time that Thor did in Ragnarok.
4. Thanos wasn't even stressing with Hulk
5. Hulk was afraid of Thanos, whereas in Ragnarok Hulk even Mocks Thor after their fight.
6. Thanos is proclaimed the most powerful being in the Universe.
7. Thanos faced IM, Dr. Strange, Drax, Spiderman, and Peter at the same time without using the Gauntlet and still showed superiority until Mantis slept him.
8. Thanos is clearly more durable than Thor. He is also clearly the better warrior and the strongest.

If that ain't enough support to say that Thanos didn't use the gem then [B] You are senile boy [/B]

You're really reaching here but I'll play.

1. Thor was severely weakened at that point(likely because he was put down by the Power Stone) so of course his hits were shitty. He was restrained easily by some metal scraps, that alone shows that at that point he was nowhere near 100% so Thanos barely registering his hits makes sense.
2. Thor also never said "yeah he beat be straight up in a fair fight without even using the stone" or "how can I stand up to him with stones when he didn't need any to kick my ass originally". Also keep in mind this was their first meeting. It's not like Thor had anything to compare him to
3. So? Thanos not needing =/= Thanos not using. For reference just look at ALL OF HIS OTHER FIGHTS!
4. See #3
5. See #4
6. See #5
7. Thanos was trying to use them the entire time but they kept him from closing his hand. That was their entire strategy. Were you net paying attention?
8. See #6

All your "points" don't amount to a hill of beans. Try again

Originally posted by juggerman
You're really reaching here but I'll play.

1. Thor was severely weakened at that point(likely because he was put down by the Power Stone) so of course his hits were shitty. He was restrained easily by some metal scraps, that alone shows that at that point he was nowhere near 100% so Thanos barely registering his hits makes sense.
2. Thor also never said "yeah he beat be straight up in a fair fight without even using the stone" or "how can I stand up to him with stones when he didn't need any to kick my ass originally". Also keep in mind this was their first meeting. It's not like Thor had anything to compare him to
3. So? Thanos not needing =/= Thanos not using. For reference just look at ALL OF HIS OTHER FIGHTS!
4. See #3
5. See #4
6. See #5
7. Thanos was trying to use them the entire time but they kept him from closing his hand. That was their entire strategy. Were you net paying attention?
8. See #6

All your "points" don't amount to a hill of beans. Try again

1. Still, a punch from Thor ain't lightly. Also, Hulk punched Thanos with no effects as well. And a punch from Hulk>>>A punch from regular Thor.

2. Dude he never specified. Yet if he would have felt that the fight wasn't fair (Like if the BO interfered or Thanos used the stone) he would have said so, specially after being confronted by Rocket.

Still he admitted to be defeated, and never complained unfairness.

So your point is invalid.

3.. I already addressed this with the Hulk argument. So you have proven nothing.

4. Rebuked.
5. Rebuked.
6. Rebuked.
7. Yet he didn't. Which means he is strong as SHIT.
8. Rebuked.

My points are clearly stronger than yours dude.

As strong as Ragnarok Thor was, and as beat-down as he was in the beginning of the movie, it makes sense that Thanos used the power stone. Also, Thor saying that Thanos is "Already too powerful to stop" (directly referencing the stones in the process) unless he gets a new weapon......yah. I'm sure Thanos used the stone against Thor; whether he really needed to is another discussion.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
As strong as Ragnarok Thor was, and as beat-down as he was in the beginning of the movie, it makes sense that Thanos used the power stone. Also, Thor saying that Thanos is "Already too powerful to stop" (directly referencing the stones in the process) unless he gets a new weapon......yah. I'm sure Thanos used the stone against Thor; whether he really needed to is another discussion.

Based on raw feats and not speculation Thanos > Thor.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
1. Still, a punch from Thor ain't lightly. Also, Hulk punched Thanos with no effects as well. And a punch from Hulk>>>A punch from regular Thor.

2. Dude he never specified. Yet if he would have felt that the fight wasn't fair (Like if the BO interfered or Thanos used the stone) he would have said so, specially after being confronted by Rocket.

Still he admitted to be defeated, and never complained unfairness.

So your point is invalid.

3.. I already addressed this with the Hulk argument. So you have proven nothing.

4. Rebuked.
5. Rebuked.
6. Rebuked.
7. Yet he didn't. Which means he is strong as SHIT.
8. Rebuked.

My points are clearly stronger than yours dude.

1. A beaten down Thor is nowhere near strong enough to harm Thanos. We never saw what a full powered punch would do.
2. No one but Hulk had a fair fight with him and yet no one complained. Why would Thor be the only one to ***** about it?
3. Already covered with Loki, Drax, Mantis, Starlord, Gamora, Nebula, Ironman, Spiderman, Dr. Strange, Black Panther, War Machine, Hulk Buster Banner, Scarlet Witch and many others. But yeah That one Hulk showing is the only one that counts 😂
4. You got nothing
5. You failed again
6. Try harder
7. But he tried to and as soon as he could guess what? He did! Kinda shits all over your point here.
8. Another failure

You have no valid point

Originally posted by juggerman
1. A beaten down Thor is nowhere near strong enough to harm Thanos. We never saw what a full powered punch would do.
2. No one but Hulk had a fair fight with him and yet no one complained. Why would Thor be the only one to ***** about it?
3. Already covered with Loki, Drax, Mantis, Starlord, Gamora, Nebula, Ironman, Spiderman, Dr. Strange, Black Panther, War Machine, Hulk Buster Banner, Scarlet Witch and many others. But yeah That one Hulk showing is the only one that counts 😂
4. You got nothing
5. You failed again
6. Try harder
7. But he tried to and as soon as he could guess what? He did! Kinda shits all over your point here.
8. Another failure

You have no valid point

Okay lets stop assuming.

Thanos without the Infinity Gauntlet would defeat Thor without Storm Breaker

So, whether Thanos used the gauntlet or not, Thor would have lost nevertheless.

We won't reach anywhere assuming stuff.

Thor still wins but it's a lot closer.

I watched the first Thor movie again. He was a BEAST.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
As strong as Ragnarok Thor was, and as beat-down as he was in the beginning of the movie, it makes sense that Thanos used the power stone. Also, Thor saying that Thanos is "Already too powerful to stop" (directly referencing the stones in the process) unless he gets a new weapon......yah. I'm sure Thanos used the stone against Thor; whether he really needed to is another discussion.

Exactly. It's like he just doesn't want to admit it. No one is claiming Thanos needed it, just that he likely used it. He sure as shit didn't need it against Drax but he still used it. Saying Thanos used it doesn't make his less impressive

Originally posted by juggerman
Exactly. It's like he just doesn't want to admit it. No one is claiming Thanos needed it, just that he likely used it. He sure as shit didn't need it against Drax but he still used it. Saying Thanos used it doesn't make his less impressive

Okay so you agree that Thanos beats Thor.

I never said i was 100% sure that Thanos didn't use the gauntlet at the beginning of the match. I said that probability points at my side.

But of course, Thanos might have safe himself the bother to beat Thor without the gauntlet