So Valkorion prolonged/maintained the apocalyptic conditions of Medriaas with his mere presence from lightyears distance? Incredibly impressive. This blows Palpatine's Byss showing out of water.
And Valkorion ruined Ziost with his own power. Why this even a debate? It is clearly implied that Valkorion was becoming stronger by the hour by drawing strength from deaths and chaos.
Although each and every one of the Zealots felt Valkorion's death vividly through the Force, all of them refuse to believe that it has actually occurred. Wild and improbable theories about his current state of existence and how best to continue serving him have driven the zealots into forming rival, warring groups who raid and kill one another interminably.
Originally posted by AncientPower
This actually backs up that Vitiate became a manifestation of the void, well beyond just a generic dark side entity. The void's existence being integrally linked to his own. He's not just dark side, he's even worse than Nihilus.
Revan; Tol Braga; and Lord Scourge - each felt the sheer emptiness (void) inside Valkorion's (Sith Emperor) Voice when it allowed them to see through it. Lord Scourge had a minor brush but the other two weren't as lucky - both were driven to madness consequently.
The void is more alarming than the imbalance stuff, IMO. Creating a hole in the Force and sustaining it for ages is something else entirely - it suggests a whole new level of EVIL and capability. Valkorion could have significantly expanded it with his Galaxy-busting move during the era of Great Galactic War but it was foiled in time.
Nathema event culminated into the largest nexus of Dark Side energy across the galaxy (ever) - I suspect a major imbalancing at this point - but the nexus eventually subsided over time. Although Revan hinted that the Force was out of balance even in his time. The void was the real deal through it all.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
This makes Revan's creation of the thought bomb way more impressive. mmm
If Zildrog has a role in Nathema as in its firepower was brought to bear during the ritual - Vitiate was still the sole survivor and beneficiary of the deed. This brings to our attention the shock factor of Meetra Surik when she learned about this event and completed her research. Vitiate being strong enough to tank a superweapon back then, is strongly implied.
Revan does benefit from all this. I have entertained the idea of Revan being firmly above any Jedi and/or Sith as of Shadow of Revan on his own. Your reluctance is a sign of weakness.
Oh please.
Nathema can hardly even be considered a Sith ritual. Tenebrae grabbed a world-consuming superweapon entity, turned it on, then allowed it to destroy all life on Nathema (including 8,000 Sith Lords) as it powered himself - which it has the ability to do.
It's frankly a less impressive ritual than Revan's Temple of Sacrifice ritual, since at least Revan had to do most of the work himself rather than turn on a hyper-intelligent robot designed to consume worlds.
Worse yet, Revan apparently knows rituals that can planet-wipe without need of any technology nor followers, as indicated by the Forgotten Terrace fight. As for the thought bomb, Revan somehow studied the effects of a superweapon and then made a miniature, Force-user powered version of it that yielded the greatest Force nexus ever (more so than Nathema).
As for Bane, there is no indication he considered Nathema more potent than the thought bomb. He probably scratched his head because one of the required items to conduct the ritual was "potentially galactic-destroying supreme AI intelligence superweapon."
I have no clue why you took this as an insult on Vitiate either - you should want him needing a superweapon to do this. It shows his immeasurable growth from needing a literal deity to cleanse a world to being able to do it himself while weakened on Ziost.
Originally posted by AncientPower
This actually backs up that Vitiate became a manifestation of the void, well beyond just a generic dark side entity. The void's existence being integrally linked to his own. He's not just dark side, he's even worse than Nihilus.
Where does it say that?
Even if it does.
It just shows that Vitiate became a Wound in the Force. That's all.
Wounds are also called 'holes' in KotOR II.
So:
- Servant One talks to the Hero of Tython
- Darth Baras talks to the LS Emperor's Wrath
- Darth Ravage talks to the DS Emperor's Wrath
- Darth Zash talks to the Darth Nox that saved Khem Val, revealing she essence transferred herself into a new body
- Khem Val talks to the Darth Nox that saved Darth Zash, revealing he "clawed" his way out of the prison
- Sophia Farash, a Child of the Emperor, talks to the LS Barsen'thor
- Bela Kiwiiks, still a Jedi Master, talks to the DS Barsen'thor
Whoever talks to you is revealed to be among the many sacrificed and killed for the awakening of Zildrog.
Darth Mortis is also imprisoned and sacrificed for Zildrog.