Avengers 1 Million (What team could beat them?)

Originally posted by leonidas
panther god shredded logos recently....he was very clearly WELL above skyfather. appeared to be above lifebringer which was ridiculous.

if these characters are portrayed at there normal levels, they crush the jld imo. at least with their standard jld line up. standard jld without prep would be hard pressed to beat classic odin alone. /shrug

That was tiger god, not panther god. Panther defeated the tiger god in combat and became its avatar (ayala was its previous host, the white tiger).

Panther god got killed during chaos war by a few unnamed slave gods. Wonders of comic consistency

Originally posted by leonidas
panther god shredded logos recently....he was very clearly WELL above skyfather. appeared to be above lifebringer which was ridiculous.

if these characters are portrayed at there normal levels, they crush the jld imo. at least with their standard jld line up. standard jld without prep would be hard pressed to beat classic odin alone. /shrug

Originally posted by operator616
That was tiger god, not panther god. Panther defeated the tiger god in combat and became its avatar (ayala was its previous host, the white tiger).

oh yeah.... 👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
You give Odin too much credit then.

and as usual you give him to little.

Originally posted by operator616
That would be true if dormammu didn't have such a bad track record against sorcerors supreme. Dormammu has been arguably their main arch-nemesis throughout the ages and at every point he was at least held back from taking earth. Strange has overpowered/banished/defeated dormammu about 5 times (some of which he had minor help). Ancient one has also done exactly that, so why is it so hard to imagine SS agamotto doing the same? That's not even getting into the details of the context (for instance, we know dormammu is generally weakened on Earth, which would explain why he goes into pussy-mode against Strange). Add in the fact that you're using a handbook as the sole basis, and you can see how that doesn't exactly inspire confidence in agamotto's power. I can't say that i knew about their encounter though, so post the handbook scan if you can to see if im missing something.

Normally i would agree but im being more cautious about non-current characters. Just look at the recent Thanos series where a future Galactus is running around with a gun like a pathetic street thug only to get one-shotted by Thanos. Or black bolt killing celestials. Granted, it's a future/potential version and not a past version, but still, one can never be too certain.

Although, what feats does panther god have? im also not sure if that is in fact panther god, but even if it is, it's evidently in human form which makes it extremely vulnerable and weak.

We really don't have much to go on for anything in this story really besides assumptions. Though the assumption in the handbook is that Aggy repelled Dorm.

srug

Originally posted by leonidas
and as usual you give him to little.

that's all he needs to be.

Originally posted by leonidas
that's all he needs to be.

lol

depends on who you place in the roster of course, but their initial line-up would get wrecked imo unless they had one-sided prep. current odin is a bit more debatable, i'll agree. which is why i initially said odin in his more classic form. mangog odin sucked.

Originally posted by leonidas
lol

depends on who you place in the roster of course, but their initial line-up would get wrecked imo unless they had one-sided prep. current odin is a bit more debatable, i'll agree. which is why i initially said odin in his more classic form. mangog odin sucked.

Odin always sucked ass though. Now he is just written as he was supposed to be.

see that type of comment's not worth entertaining discussion over. anyway, like i said, depends on the roster. phantom stranger can be at or near skyfather himself at times, so any line up that has him in it obviously has a better chance. /shrug but of course odin isn't allow here.

Originally posted by leonidas
see that type of comment's not worth entertaining discussion over. anyway, like i said, depends on the roster. phantom stranger can be at or near skyfather himself at times, so any line up that has him in it obviously has a better chance. /shrug but of course odin isn't allow here.

Blight arc JLD would destroy any Odin, be it classic or current.

Like Operator said, Phantom Stranger is ABOVE Sky father. He's around Galactus level, at least.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That was just tongue in cheek.

Blight arc JLD would destroy any Odin, be it classic or current.

yeah yeah. what line-up made up that arc?

Looks like they're going with Tim as being a potential villain/most powerful mage in the DCU:

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Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm talking about blight arc JLD.

Odin always sucked ass though. Now he is just written as he was supposed to be.

😂

You have randomly acquired a hate for Odin in the last few months that is very illogical. Odin is such a rarely used character, and often acts as a plot device, that it's just kind of confusing. He rarely is the dedicated focus point of a story.

Abhi is right, though. The JLD team from the Blight arc was insanely powerful.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nonetheless, he was a part of JLD.

The Vertigo version was indeed uber as phuck -- possessing no less than trans-universal(potentially multiversal) power at his peak.

The post-Flashpoint iteration(ie. the one who was in the JLD), however, has very little in the way of feats, but his implied power is still massive. For example, the sheer amount of raw magic he and his father were outputting was enough to leave even Constantine himself completely awestruck/humbled... Though he still doesn't hold a candle to Vertigo Tim at this point. /shrug

Even though they seem like different versions, I thought Flashpoint MOLDED the Vertigo/Wildstorm into the mainstream DCU.