Cable vs. Winter Soldier

Started by Supermutant2 pages
Originally posted by riv6672
Who’s Cable trained by, exactly?

A whole clan of warriors lol. Clan Askani

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Clan_Askani_(Earth-4935)

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/askani/4005-8302/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Askani

Cable ftw after a good fight.

https://imgur.com/a/H33nI79

cap seemed more skilled, (in a different fight, using his powers cable beat him) but cable is def more experienced and at least as smart. more ruthless too.

bucky would be less skilled than cap of course but is pretty ruthless and does have some superhuman stats.

i dunno. it's close. neither sweeps. i think i'd take bucky for a very slight majority. good match up though.

Originally posted by Supermutant
A whole clan of warriors lol. Clan Askani

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Clan_Askani_(Earth-4935)

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/askani/4005-8302/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Askani

Cable ftw after a good fight.

^^^So, not a notable h2h fighter in the bunch.
Thanks for confirming.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^So, not a notable h2h fighter in the bunch.
Thanks for confirming.

The whole clan is from the future where they fight everyday to stay alive, and developed their own fighting techniques. lol so only "notable" h2h fighters can train others. Well despite not having any notable ones, Cable can hold his own even with his powers backfiring.

https://comicnewbies.com/2015/01/14/cable-vs-captain-america/

Leo are your scans from Cable and Deadpool 25?

Where Cable handed Cap his shield then he got sucker punched...then thrown out the window.

Cable never really wanted to fight Cap there if so.

Originally posted by Supermutant
The whole clan is from the future where they fight everyday to stay alive, and developed their own fighting techniques. lol so only "notable" h2h fighters can train others. Well despite not having any notable ones, Cable can hold his own even with his powers backfiring.

Sorry, guy, that doesnt cut it.

You saying they “developed their own techniques/only notable h2h fighters can train others” is an opinion.
From the links you provided, Cable’s actual mentor’s some guy named Blaquesmith.

Ask all active KMCers to draw up a list of the top 10 h2h fighters in comics, or even just Marvel, you arent going to find that guy on anyone’s list, whereas WS’s mentor would be on a manority of those lists, at or near the top.

Lol blaquesmith is a member of the askani clan. Other members of the clan also helped to trained cable. Blaquesmith was more like a guardian than just a trainer. What cuts it for you, doesn't matter to me. You asked the question, it's your problem that the answer isn't what you wish it to be.

This isn't who has the most notable trainer thread. Cap, Bruce, stick type trainees would always win that. Cable and Bucky both have good h2h feats where I would be confident arguing for either. I'll still slightly favor cable, but you are top 3 worst poster on this board. And definitely not worth engaging with anymore.

Originally posted by leonidas
https://imgur.com/a/H33nI79

cap seemed more skilled, (in a different fight, using his powers cable beat him) but cable is def more experienced and at least as smart. more ruthless too.

bucky would be less skilled than cap of course but is pretty ruthless and does have some superhuman stats.

i dunno. it's close. neither sweeps. i think i'd take bucky for a very slight majority. good match up though.

(before Infinity Formula)

I like the Winter Soliders unfailable programing in his fights but I strongly favor the CIA in this fight and think that The Falcon could beat the Winter Solider.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Lol blaquesmith is a member of the askani clan. Other members of the clan also helped to trained cable. Blaquesmith was more like a guardian than just a trainer. What cuts it for you, doesn't matter to me. You asked the question, it's your problem that the answer isn't what you wish it to be.

This isn't who has the most notable trainer thread. Cap, Bruce, stick type trainees would always win that. Cable and Bucky both have good h2h feats where I would be confident arguing for either. I'll still slightly favor cable, but you are top 3 worst poster on this board. And definitely not worth engaging with anymore.

😂

finally something we can actually agree on.

Originally posted by Supermutant
The whole clan is from the future where they fight everyday to stay alive, and developed their own fighting techniques. lol so only "notable" h2h fighters can train others. Well despite not having any notable ones, Cable can hold his own even with his powers backfiring.

https://comicnewbies.com/2015/01/14/cable-vs-captain-america/

Leo are your scans from Cable and Deadpool 25?

Where Cable handed Cap his shield then he got sucker punched...then thrown out the window.

Cable never really wanted to fight Cap there if so.

lol, he got put on his ass immediately and had to pull a freaking gun.

Originally posted by deathslash
lol, he got put on his ass immediately and had to pull a freaking gun.

You're ill... there's something wrong with you.

TO was taking control of Cable, iirc. That's why he ended up looking like Colossus in that mini.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're ill... there's [b]something wrong with you.

TO was taking control of Cable, iirc. That's why he ended up looking like Colossus in that mini. [/B]

Oh, I realize that. It's just that he made it seem like cable had a chance before he pulled the gun.

Originally posted by Supermutant

https://comicnewbies.com/2015/01/14/cable-vs-captain-america/

Leo are your scans from Cable and Deadpool 25?

Where Cable handed Cap his shield then he got sucker punched...then thrown out the window.

Cable never really wanted to fight Cap there if so.

huh?

https://imgur.com/a/HGEwf7x

cap was the one who said "we really don't have to do this". and no idea how it can be a sucker punch when cable was staring right at him and encouraged the fight.... pretty sure neither really wanted much of a fight in that book.

That encounter was just so Cable could mind-link with Cap to show why he built Providence, and the respect he had for Cap ideals and shield. It really shouldn't be use as indicative of an actually fight anymore than a training session or friendly sparring. But yeah neither were serious or going all out.

https://imgur.com/a/6OT2Rgv

Steve wanted to take Cable down... but Cable's plan was all about using his artificially restored powers to beat Steve in the end, so he likely wasn't trying his best.

That scan does prove that he's very comparable with Bucky, though. As both had no real enhancements other than their mechanic arms and even with their peak human status, they were still inferior to SSS.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Lol blaquesmith is a member of the askani clan. Other members of the clan also helped to trained cable.

Yeah and no one’s ever heard of them.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Blaquesmith was more like a guardian than just a trainer.

aaaawww...!

Originally posted by Supermutant
What cuts it for you, doesn't matter to me.

Your responses beg to differ.

Originally posted by Supermutant
You asked the question, it's your problem that the answer isn't what you wish it to be.

No you just gave a really crappy answer, and are getting wound up defending it, so, Its actually been my pleasure.

QUOTE=16594848]Originally posted by Supermutant
This isn't who has the most notable trainer thread. Cap, Bruce, stick type trainees would always win that. Cable and Bucky both have good h2h feats where I would be confident arguing for either. I'll still favor Cable. [/QUOTE]
Agreed.
Both are comparable, and imo WS has the edge in better training.
Thats what i said originally when Kaz asked how that was, i asked him who Cable had been trained by, as i honestly had no idea.

Turns out, going by your answer, the reason i had no idea is because his trainers werent noteworthy.

Originally posted by Supermutant
you are top 3 worst poster on this board.

I’d probably be near, or at the top of a worst poster list submitted by all active KMCers, yeah.

That makes me note worthy.

Unlike Cable’s trainers.

🙂