Winter Soldier vs. Drax

Started by HulkIsHulk2 pages
HulkIsHulk Senior Member

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes. Bucky is able to take Cap's blows as well as harm Cap with his regular arm and kicks. That indicates that he has roughly similar strength to Cap. His robo-arm is even more powerful.

Taking hits is durability. And IIRC Bucky never did any noticeable damage with hus barehanded blows it kicks. I seriously doubt you need to have super strength to hurt Cap, like Batroc or the elevator fight showed. RS made Cap bleed, so if there's something like that it would be nice

TheVaultDweller Front line cannon fodder
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Of course it does. He neck lifted BP and, slammed this CIA guy through chest of drawers with his normal arm

Wasn't just a neck left. He actually caught and held him when T'Challa jumped at him, despite his arm being at a very awkward angel to do so. A normal person would likely have torn their rotator cuff even attempting that. And he also sent Tony sailing several feet back with a punch to the chest during the escape scene.

Bucky just tends to use his robo arm more because, well, why wouldn't he? It's one of the best weapons in his arsenal. It'd be like expecting Cap to not use his shield in combat.

TheVaultDweller Front line cannon fodder
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
pinned down Groot and tore up much thicker Vines from him than what he used on Gamora with barely any effort

Yeah, while Drax doesn't have many pure strength feats, the implication seems to be that he is at least above Gamora, based on things like this, where he was able to pin her down with one arm:

YouTube video

And she can do things like this:

FrothByte Nailcutter Massacre

Anyway, I still stick to what I said before. In pure h2h Drax wins. Too durable. Give them knives and Bucky probably wins. Too skilled.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx7afHUuREY&t=83s

Bucky catches and chokes out BP with his HUMAN hand. I never noticed that. It's at 3:00.

I think he's equal or so close it doesn't matter, to Steve. The metal arm is just flat out above street level strength.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIlzqDbxJCQ

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by FrothByte
If we assume WS is around Cap's level of strength, then what has Drax done to compare to easily lifting a bike with 3 women over his head or holding down a chopper?
Feats aren't shared due to high and low showings. Bucky must use his own feats. Now if they stalemated in a grappling test of strength then we can give Bucky Cap's AVERAGE STRENGTH.

Lifting the motorcycle and the chopper feat were both less than 2 ton feats.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx7afHUuREY&t=83s

Bucky catches and chokes out BP with his HUMAN hand. I never noticed that. It's at 3:00.

I think he's equal or so close it doesn't matter, to Steve. The metal arm is just flat out above street level strength.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIlzqDbxJCQ


Catching BP is less than a 1 ton feat. Sure he is strong as hell vs a real human but I wouldn't use less than 1ton feats to show that someone is stronger than Drax.

I would say Drax is AT LEAST a couple of times stronger than Bucky. Drax is possibly on par with the metal arm though (possibly greater).

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
And she can do things like this:

What if that alien spaceship metal was super-light? 😛

Probably wasn't, but everything is possible in comics.

TheVaultDweller Front line cannon fodder

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What if that alien spaceship metal was super-light? 😛

Probably wasn't, but everything is possible in comics.

I highly doubt it, considering the damage the ship did when it crashed into the valley. Plus, even if it was lighter than it looks, to handle the recoil of a ship-mounted gun while keeping it steady and walking forward would still require immense strength.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx7afHUuREY&t=83s

Bucky catches and chokes out BP with his HUMAN hand. I never noticed that. It's at 3:00.

I think he's equal or so close it doesn't matter, to Steve. The metal arm is just flat out above street level strength.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIlzqDbxJCQ


Catching BP is less than a 1 ton feat. Sure he is strong as hell vs a real human but I wouldn't use less than 1ton feats to show that someone is stronger than Drax.

If would say Drax is several times stronger than Bucky. Drax is possibly on par with the metal arm though (possibly greater).

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

So since drax is roughly stronger than gamora, he can use gamora's high end feats. But since bucky is just as strong as Steve with a stronger metal arm, he can't use Steve's high end feats?

Smells like a double standard to me.