really?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Your analogy is ill-suited to draw a parallel with the case of Marka Ragnos and Vitiate.Do you think that Palpatine and Marka Ragnos think alike? Marka Ragnos might regard Darth Maul as an average joe since he was ruling an Empire where powerhouses were numerous. However, Tenebrae was extraordinary by any measure:
The child who will come to be known as the Sith Emperor is born. Black-eyed, heartless, and supremely strong in the dark side of the Force, the boy seizes control of his homeworld by the age of 13 and earns the title Lord Vitiate.
From [B]Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
How many 13 year olds have slaughtered Sith Lords left and right and seized control of a planet by force?
Palpatine wasn't ruling an Empire, and Darth Maul was a refreshing sight to him since he was in search for a suitable apprentice. If Palpatine had been ruling an Empire, he would have a list of potential candidates to single out one from for apprenticeship.
As for Tenebrae not challenging Marka Ragnos; this doesn't imply weakness and/or lack of capability. Every strongman is not necessarily a wrestler, by choice. Tenebrae was simply not interested in contending for the throne at the time:
He amasses an army of Sith followers and turn his back on Imperial politics to hone his skills in the dark side.
From Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia [/B]
Vitiate as of meeting Ragnos was declared to have supreme power and was able to absolutely dominate Dramath. The same Dramath who's insane spirit could stand his own against Arcann and Vaylin alongside the Outlander. Fast forward a century and Vitiate's stated to have harnessed much greater powers. Then he enacts the ritual of Nathema, stated to make him more powerful than the Exile could imagine, putting him far above Darth Nihilus. As well as becoming powerful enough to passively subvert the will of the Force. Then he only gains immensely in power over a millennia until the novel.
Yeah Ragnos is absolutely fvcked.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Vitiate as of meeting Ragnos was declared to have supreme power and was able to absolutely dominate Dramath. The same Dramath who's insane spirit could stand his own against Arcann and Vaylin alongside the Outlander. Fast forward a century and Vitiate's stated to have harnessed much greater powers. Then he enacts the ritual of Nathema, stated to make him more powerful than the Exile could imagine, putting him far above Darth Nihilus. As well as becoming powerful enough to passively subvert the will of the Force. Then he only gains immensely in power over a millennia until the novel.Yeah Ragnos is absolutely fvcked.
Following that logic, Revan shitstomps Vaylin/Arcann. If dramath held his own against, them.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Or, you know, Revan wasn't doing nearly as well against the Emperor as people like to think he did. As soon as he tried an actual Force exchange he was completely overwhelmed and subdued.
"actual force exchange" I guess Sidious/yoda didn't have any actual force exchanges, I guess mace windu and Sidious had no actual force exchanges, I could go on kek.
No Vitiate charged up his full might over time, Revan responded, with a disadvantage. was only given second degree burns and recovered moments later. he is comparable. if not he would of been incinerated, this is clear, with the type of force technique that was used. Just think about it analytically AP, Nyriss's version was capable of incinerating flesh. and revan casually deflected that. he then took on Vitiates version "infinitely more powerful" and was not incinerated, only receiving second degree burns. There is parity.
Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
I am not convinced that Revan and Vitiate as of the novel are comparable, but they should be reasonably close.If Vitiate's growth would be immense, then I don't see Revan being challenged by him at all.
Proof for Vitiate's growth being immense?
900 years of absorbing essence from force users/gaining knowledge, sure he expended a bit on rituals, but it would of been an upwards trend. As backed by SWTOR Vitiate growing stronger than Novel vitiate over 300 years.
And they are clearly within the same league, revan on the lower end.