Hate Speech Laws Yay or Nay?

Started by JMANGO3 pages

Hate Speech Laws Yay or Nay?

I know many of you live in the US, so this territory is legislatively safe... for the time being. But lets say you're the leader of a utopian land , would you choose to prosecute people for saying mean things? Threats of violence and defamation don't count.

**** no.

Also I find the idea of a utopia reprehensible in principle

Would you persecute :

- Anyone who explains the negativity of the doctrine of Islam.

- Anyone who criticises feminism

- Anyone who mentions that demographics aren't inherently equal and this includes also the brain and IQs.

- Anyone who mentions that transgenders are likely just mentally sick

- Anyone who mentions that John Hopkins university hospital has stopped doing gender-reassignment surgeries because they found out that most patients were not better off post-op.

Nay.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Nay.

Nay 110%

Originally posted by JMANGO
I know many of you live in the US, so this territory is legislatively safe... for the time being. But lets say you're the leader of a utopian land , would you choose to prosecute people for saying mean things? Threats of violence and defamation don't count.

Why is there hate speech in your Utopia?

In a Utopia, none of these would even exist. If they do, then it’s no longer a Utopia.

I would not even make it Illegal to yell Fire in Movie Theaters.

Define hate speech that doesn't rely on subjective standards.

Yay. Hate speech should be considered a crime under "inciting a riot", which is against the law even in the US.

Re: Hate Speech Laws Yay or Nay?

Originally posted by JMANGO
would you choose to prosecute people for saying mean things?

Absolutely not.

hate speech is not defined as "mean things" nor even defined as using slurs. OP is a confirmed bundle of sticks.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yay. Hate speech should be considered a crime under "inciting a riot", which is against the law even in the US.

👆 but context doesnt matter in america, nor does nuance exist here anymore.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
but context doesnt matter in america

YouTube video

Originally posted by Nibedicus
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Jokes? Sorry. Jokes are outlawed now. Too offensive. Unless that joke was told by someone like Samantha Bee, then it's hate speech and you must be punished for it.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Jokes? Sorry. Jokes are outlawed now. Too offensive. Unless that joke was told by someone like Samantha Bee, then it's hate speech and you must be punished for it.

Wait, I gotta be punished for Samantha Bee’s jokes??

Dang. O_O

Originally posted by cdtm
Yay. Hate speech should be considered a crime under "inciting a riot", which is against the law even in the US.

Which is authoritarian and stupid.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yay. Hate speech should be considered a crime under "inciting a riot", which is against the law even in the US.
Bingo, Actions have consequences
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
hate speech is not defined as "mean things" nor even defined as using slurs. OP is a confirmed bundle of sticks.

👆 but context doesnt matter in america, nor does nuance exist here anymore.

Agreed, when I was a boy we were asked to remember not to forget. It took a generation more to do exactly that with the help of Russian Internet Propaganda and Youtube talking heads.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Bingo, Actions have consequences Agreed, when I was a boy we were asked to remember not to forget. It took a generation more to do exactly that with the help of Russian Internet Propaganda and Youtube talking heads.

Actions yes, the expression of thoughts, no. You cannot violate someone's rights unless they violate someone else's rights. When you do that, you're a dictator.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Actions yes, the expression of thoughts, no. You cannot violate someone's rights unless they violate someone else's rights. When you do that, you're a dictator.
Once something is expressed it becomes an action, The negative impacts of hate speech cannot be mitigated by the responses of third-party observers, as hate speech aims at two goals. First, it is an attempt to tell bigots that they are not alone. Frank Collins — the neo-Nazi prosecuted in National Socialist Party of America v Skokie (1977) — said, “We want to reach the good people, get the fierce anti-Semites who have to live among the Jews to come out of the woodwork and stand up for themselves.”
The second purpose of hate speech is to intimidate the targeted minority, leading them to question whether their dignity and social status is secure. In many cases, such intimidation is successful. Hate Speech is Bullying, pure and simple.