What WB/DC should do to compete against Disney/Marvel's MCU?

Started by quanchi1126 pages

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]What caused you to be so full of hate there little man?

Not enough prunes in your childhood I bet....Probably why you like Thanos so much....what with him being a Giant Prune... [/B]

Mcu is amazing dceu is shit. Accept reality. The more you reject it the more you will want to self harm.

Originally posted by Zack M
That's because JL was associated with Snyder.

I dont think the vast majority of audiences know Snyder well by name. They just associate it with the DC films shared universe.

If Shazam and Aquaman are received well, then like I said they can keep going with the more popular franchises in the DCEU. But so far theres just the 1.

Zack really thinks average people are talking about Snyder with the justice league film. What an idiot.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I dont think the vast majority of audiences know Snyder well by name. They just associate it with the DC films shared universe.

If Shazam and Aquaman are received well, then like I said they can keep going with the more popular franchises in the DCEU. But so far theres just the 1.

Pretty sure most movie goers knew Snyder was the director, especially after what happened to his daughter. Snyder is a pretty big name. Either way, it's a wait and see game for the future movies. You can't really reboot the franchise without rebooting Wonder Woman.

Originally posted by Zack M
That's because JL was associated with Snyder. SHAZAM and Aquaman aren't. Neither is The Batman, New Gods, and Blackhawks. Those could be big.
The average movie-goer quite possibly doesn't even know who Snyder is. What they know is the brand, and the brand's reputation has been tarnished irrevocably, with a reboot being its only salvation.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The average movie-goer quite possibly doesn't even know who Snyder is. What they know is the brand, and the brand's reputation has been tarnished irrevocably, with a reboot being its only salvation.

Eh, disagree. By the time JL came out, I would think most people would know who would be at the helm of JL (Snyder/Whedon). A reboot isn't necessary. Not after WW box office performance. WB just needs to commit to quality, diverse films.

Originally posted by Zack M
Eh, disagree. By the time JL came out, I would think most people would know who would be at the helm of JL (Snyder/Whedon). A reboot isn't necessary. Not after WW box office performance. WB just needs to commit to quality, diverse films.

No. WB needs to keep their fat heads out of the DC Projects and let the right fans start making the movies.

Yes, WB needs to give more freedom and get their hands out of the creative control.

They need to stop Weinsteining the DC.

Originally posted by Zack M
Eh, disagree. By the time JL came out, I would think most people would know who would be at the helm of JL (Snyder/Whedon). A reboot isn't necessary. Not after WW box office performance. WB just needs to commit to quality, diverse films.

I doubt it about Snyder. Hes neither a Christopher Nolan nor a Michael Bay when it comes to fame.

Yes theres no way they will reboot Wonder Woman. But then a JL2 seems pretty unlikely at this point also. So theyre basically stuck as far as the Shared Universe bit goes.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I doubt it about Snyder. Hes neither a Christopher Nolan nor a Michael Bay when it comes to fame.

Yes theres no way they will reboot Wonder Woman. But then a JL2 seems pretty unlikely at this point also. So theyre basically stuck as far as the Shared Universe bit goes.

Hes no small time director, either. I'm not just blaming him, the higher ups are to blame too.

If you had to pick between Jake or Ben as Batman, who would you choose?

Originally posted by Zack M
Eh, disagree. By the time JL came out, I would think most people would know who would be at the helm of JL (Snyder/Whedon). A reboot isn't necessary. Not after WW box office performance. WB just needs to commit to quality, diverse films.
Regular people don’t pay attention to the directors at all. Stop being disingenuous. The brand has been negatively affected by the previous films and despite the success of WW that still couldn’t save it from being a colossal failure.

Originally posted by Zack M
Hes no small time director, either. I'm not just blaming him, the higher ups are to blame too.

If you had to pick between Jake or Ben as Batman, who would you choose?

Meh. Id prefer to continue with Ben for now.

But not if his heart isnt in it. Also without a reboot if they change actor theyre stuck with an older Batman for any crossover films.

Originally posted by janus77
I honestly don't think most DC superheroes translate well, to the movies.

Superman worked for children back in the '70s, a more innocent time and one without the amplified drama and action that movies now offer. The core character is bland and you can't "gray him up" without basically invalidating the meaning of Superman..

You clearly don’t know the character if you are actually spiting out such crap.

Yeah. I never really agreed with the "modern concept" that Since I am a Piece of Human Shit. I want my Heroes to be Pieces of Shit Too.

Heroes should be someone we look up to and aspire to be like.

But hey. If you wanna be a POS....Who am I to say that you are wrong.

Originally posted by SquallX
You clearly don’t know the character if you are actually spiting out such crap.
Your version of Superman is just your version. Janus knows enough about the shitty character of Superman to have an opinion. Calm down you’re someasily triggered probably because the dceu has become a joke. Relax they did it to themselves.

Quan, keep your mouth shut!

Just because it’s his opinion, doesn’t mean it can’t be challenged if someone else thinks it’s wrong.

It's not a "challenge" if all it amounts to is "I don't like your opinion, and it smells!".

Superman is dull and boring and would hold little interest with people, if he were to be the clean cut, simple, flat character he was in comics. The whole "hope" symbol stuff is hilarious and merely furthers the infantilisation of the audience that DC trades in.

This is why their biggest success is always Batman. And now, after copying the whole plot, style and tone of Captain America: TFA, Wonder Woman is another of their "non-DC" successes.

I have nothing against DC, I enjoyed the infamous Ryan Reynolds GL film, and really liked the Nolan and Burton Batmen.

I just don't see their prime properties working. Maybe Green Arrow could be done for the big screen or a Catwoman movie or something, but the big S is destined to be a big L, imo.

Originally posted by SquallX
Quan, keep your mouth shut!

Just because it’s his opinion, doesn’t mean it can’t be challenged if someone else thinks it’s wrong.

So you’re rattled by my opinion. Hey, I’ve always favored marvel and want the dceu to continue as a second tier company.

Originally posted by janus77
Superman worked for children back in the '70s, a more innocent time and one without the amplified drama and action that movies now offer. The core character is bland and you can't "gray him up" without basically invalidating the meaning of Superman.

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