What Jordan Peterson says

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html

Forced Mogonamy:

Recently, a young man named Alek Minassian drove through Toronto trying to kill people with his van. Ten were killed, and he has been charged with first-degree murder for their deaths, and with attempted murder for 16 people who were injured. Mr. Minassian declared himself to be part of a misogynist group whose members call themselves incels. The term is short for “involuntary celibates,” though the group has evolved into a male supremacist movement made up of people — some celibate, some not — who believe that women should be treated as sexual objects with few rights. Some believe in forced “sexual redistribution,” in which a governing body would intervene in women’s lives to force them into sexual relationships.

Violent attacks are what happens when men do not have partners, Mr. Peterson says, and society needs to work to make sure those men are married.

“He was angry at God because women were rejecting him,” Mr. Peterson says of the Toronto killer. “The cure for that is enforced monogamy. That’s actually why monogamy emerges.”

Mr. Peterson does not pause when he says this. Enforced monogamy is, to him, simply a rational solution. Otherwise women will all only go for the most high-status men, he explains, and that couldn’t make either gender happy in the end.

“Half the men fail,” he says, meaning that they don’t procreate. “And no one cares about the men who fail.”

I laugh, because it is absurd.

“You’re laughing about them,” he says, giving me a disappointed look. “That’s because you’re female.”

🙁

The Existence of Witches:

But witches don’t exist, and they don’t live in swamps, I say.

“Yeah, they do. They do exist. They just don’t exist the way you think they exist. They certainly exist. You may say well dragons don’t exist. It’s, like, yes they do — the category predator and the category dragon are the same category. It absolutely exists. It’s a superordinate category. It exists absolutely more than anything else. In fact, it really exists. What exists is not obvious. You say, ‘Well, there’s no such thing as witches.’ Yeah, I know what you mean, but that isn’t what you think when you go see a movie about them. You can’t help but fall into these categories. There’s no escape from them.”

🙁

I've linked the article, if i'm missing context, feel free to quote me.

Well this is dishonest. This piece just makes me think of Andrew Klavan saying, "The New York Times...a former newspaper." It's not "Forced" monogamy as you said but "enforced." And that has been present for decades. You can read up about it in it's anthropological sense here. To break it down, what Peterson is saying isn't that women should be forced into sexual redistribution or anything of that like. He's arguing that socially-enforced monogamy leads to more couples. He wants society to promote socially-enforced monogamy as a positive good. That's all.

And of course Peterson talks about witches. Just like he constantly speaks of dragons. Dr. Peterson doesn't believe in dragons or anything. He just believes in archetypes in the Jungian sense. Which is why he often speaks of Disney movies when addressing more complex psychological material. He's referring here to witches as an archetype in the same way he refers to the dragon as one or the hero as one. That's just his style.

mass imprisonment of women in sex-camps when

Originally posted by ESB -1138
[B]Well this is dishonest. This piece just makes me think of Andrew Klavan saying, "The New York Times...a former newspaper." It's not "Forced" monogamy as you said but "enforced." And that has been present for decades.

Enforced, definition:

caused by necessity or force; compulsory.

:/

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Enforced, definition:

:/

Good job at reading the link I provided you. You're defining enforced and NOT enforced monogamy. So, I'll try this again:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3260845/

Read it this time and maybe you'll actually understand the anthropological concept of enforced monogamy.

Holy shit, does Rocky actually think Jordan Peterson is saying there's literal witches and dragons running around in the world? Or that he thinks the state should compel people to **** other people?

What the actual **** is some of this stuff in the article?!

OOOOHHH HE LOOKS LIKE A CAT, LOOK AT HIM CURLING UP IN HIS CHAIR LOOKING ALL FELINE, EYEING YOU LIKE A PREDATOR

wtf is that shit

This is one of the most bizarre ****ing hitpieces I've ever read lol, like wtf is this person's obsession with Peterson's appearance, trying to poison the well by trying to describe his appearance and physical composure in the creepiest way possible. Some liars are professional liars, but this article has a distinct lack of professionalism.

It's called a hit piece and serves only to give Leftists something to point at to dismiss Dr. Peterson.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
It's called a hit piece and serves only to give something Leftists to point at to dismiss Dr. Peterson.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah but most hitpieces at least focus on lying about a person's positions and stances, not writing several paragraphs obsessing over the person's physical appearance, composure, home decoration, and other such shit in the creepiest possible language.

That shows how desperate they are to actual find a way to merely dismiss Dr. Peterson. And also just how much of a hatred they have for the man. Because he's not merely fighting back against Leftist narrative like Bill Whittle does. He's actually giving people (especially young men) a cure to chaos and a chance to find purpose in their being. Doing that diminishes the purpose of the government in people's lives and that can't happen. After all, to the Left, government is god and government is a jealous god and you can't have any other god before it.

“You’re laughing about them,” he says, giving me a disappointed look. “That’s because you’re female.”

Lol!

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Good job at reading the link I provided you. You're defining enforced and NOT enforced monogamy. So, I'll try this again:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3260845/

Read it this time and maybe you'll actually understand the anthropological concept of enforced monogamy.

monogamous marriage is both normative and legally enforced

Setting aside how you left me to find your "evidence" for you, rather than quoting the parts of the article that support your case, the sentence would indeed suggest that "enforced" means exactly what the dictionary defines it as:

caused by necessity or force; compulsory.

Peterson wants us to legally enforce monogamy so that more men have women to love which will stop cult like killers.

Originally posted by DMB
Or that he thinks the state should compel people to **** other people?

“He was angry at God because women were rejecting him,” Mr. Peterson says of the Toronto killer. “The cure for that is enforced monogamy. That’s actually why monogamy emerges.”

Holy shit, does Rocky actually think Jordan Peterson is saying there's literal witches and dragons running around in the world?

“It makes sense that a witch lives in a swamp. Yeah,” he says. “Why?”

It’s a hard one.

“Right. That’s right. You don’t know. It’s because those things hang together at a very deep level. Right. Yeah. And it makes sense that an old king lives in a desiccated tower.”

But witches don’t exist, and they don’t live in swamps, I say.

“Yeah, they do. They do exist. They just don’t exist the way you think they exist. They certainly exist. You may say well dragons don’t exist. It’s, like, yes they do — the category predator and the category dragon are the same category. It absolutely exists. It’s a superordinate category. It exists absolutely more than anything else. In fact, it really exists. What exists is not obvious. You say, ‘Well, there’s no such thing as witches.’ Yeah, I know what you mean, but that isn’t what you think when you go see a movie about them. You can’t help but fall into these categories. There’s no escape from them.”

Explain what I'm supposed to take from this obviously meaningful quote of the great Peterson.

While you do that (assuming you're finished avoiding the content with critques on "professionalism"😉

Other things Mr. Peterson has said:

-> Women in the 50's shouldn't have complained about their lack of opportunity:

At one point in the discussion, Mr. Peterson, who had been relatively quiet, becomes heated on the topic of women who find marriage oppressive.
“So I don’t know who these people think marriages are oppressing,” he says. “I read Betty Friedan’s book because I was very curious about it, and it’s so whiny, it’s just enough to drive a modern person mad to listen to these suburban housewives from the late ’50s ensconced in their comfortable secure lives complaining about the fact that they’re bored because they don’t have enough opportunity. It’s like, Jesus get a hobby. For Christ’s sake, you — you — ”

Uh, this:

“Half the men fail,” he says, meaning that they don’t procreate. “And no one cares about the men who fail.”

Originally posted by Tzeentch
mass imprisonment of women in sex-camps when

Make it a Pay Per View and you got yourself a real money maker.

Honestly, enforcing monogamy is stupid, yeah.

But Peterson obviously doesn't believe in actual witches, rather uses them in a more metaphorical sense. At least that's what I got out of it.

Love seeing people who aren't very bright trying to smear Jordan and failing.

Lol@ "custodian of the patriarchy". Oh leftists...at least you didn't call him alt right this time.

wow, peterson has really lost it hasn’t he 🙁

Originally posted by Beniboybling
wow, peterson has really lost it hasn’t he 🙁

Reminds me of when Ben Shapiro "lost it". Remember that topic, Beni? I suspect this one will end in a similar manner. The complete and utter failure to "own" or humiliate the intended subject of the topic.

Originally posted by MythLord
Honestly, enforcing monogamy is stupid, yeah.

But Peterson obviously doesn't believe in actual witches, rather uses them in a more metaphorical sense. At least that's what I got out of it.

Isn't it scary some people need to have it pointed out to them "he didn't mean actual witches"?

It's the lobsters all over again.

I also can't help notice "forced monogamy" is mentioned in the article where he is called the custodian of the patriarchy. Lol, did he say only women should be forced to be monogamous? I missed that part. It's not an example of patriarchy for both men and women to be forced to be faithful. It would be a bad idea, but it's not patriarchy.

Originally posted by Surtur
Reminds me of when Ben Shapiro "lost it". Remember that topic, Beni? I suspect this one will end in a similar manner. The complete and utter failure to "own" or humiliate the intended subject of the topic.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
looks like surt's ready to slap some cheeks, yeah.

Just ready to laugh at the failure of this article. Yet another person dimwits try to paint as alt right when they aren't alt right. Makes me smile.