Future Gladiator is not usable.
His best 'mainstream' feat is a narrator statement of nanosecond movement.
That puts him below Diana.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17No.
That's gotta be part combat speed no? I mean to target and land a blow on such a small point(Heimdall) at such speeds needs some nuance I would think.
He's literally flying in a straight line and hits him.
Originally posted by JBL
How come WW's shattered God feat is all of a sudden light speed and so great when she's put up against characters other than superman?? When it was brought up in a thread involving her against superman, it was lowballed to death by superman fans.
I brought it up because let's face it, only one person here is an authority on both combatants.
And that's Carver.
He was talking up WWs speed feats - both reflex AND travel speed.
He's also a known Glads fan.
So unlike you, or me, or Phildo, or anyone else, he truly is impartial.
And HE has brought it up before many a time. Seems to have driven him away now though....
Originally posted by celeyhyga17The narration says that one must be fast enough to cross galaxies in the time it takes Heimdall to blink, yes. Which is quite the impressive flight speed feat for Gladiator.
While he's blinking. I was under the impression Gladz made his move while Idris Elba was in the early stages of a blink.
But that has no connection to actual combat speed. If you want to argue that Gladiator can bullrush Wonder Woman, though, certainly. You'd lose that, too, given the god-parts were coming from corners of the Universe and she blocked multiple ones, but at least it's an argument.
Dunno man. It seemed to imply that he waited for him to blink then attacked(crossing stellar distances). Meaning to say, he was probably stationary or in some form of holding pattern then reacted based on Heimdall's process of blinking. *shrug*
In any case I just always thought hitting someone at insane speeds requires nuance especially if it's a relatively small target from so far away. I'm considering factors like environmental, movement by target even minimal, and timing(placement of blow) right before impact.
The Shattered god feat, I'm of the same mind as Bran. Still highly impressive though.
https://www.dccomics.com/reader/#/comics/437458
looks like she will whip Supergirl's ass again. 😎
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Dunno man. It seemed to imply that he waited for him to blink then attacked(crossing stellar distances). Meaning to say, he was probably stationary or in some form of holding pattern then reacted based on Heimdall's process of blinking. *shrug*
In any case I just always thought hitting someone at insane speeds requires nuance especially if it's a relatively small target from so far away. I'm considering factors like environmental, movement by target even minimal, and timing(placement of blow) right before impact.The Shattered god feat, I'm of the same mind as Bran. Still highly impressive though.
Most definitely.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17Even if we take your assumption as true, and Gladiator was standing still before Heimdall blinked, that wouldn't change the fact that it was a bullrush, and all it required was high flight acceleration and velocity. "A blink of an eye" is generally higher, in terms of time, than a human reaction. If, for example, we were standing face to face, and I got the approval of somebody to hit you the moment you blinked, I'd be able to do so, before you finished blinking. And I'm a real world human. Change this, with Gladiator being "GO!" the moment Heimdall blinks [in your scenario], and it's one of the most impressive travel speed feats, but all he has to do is simply fly straight ahead [with his fist extended, if that's your thing]. You keep adding details when it's obvious you can't argue otherwise, when none of them are provable, so don't die on this hill, because it would bore me. You're unable to prove it requires combat speed, nevermind the type to actually matter.
Dunno man. It seemed to imply that he waited for him to blink then attacked(crossing stellar distances). Meaning to say, he was probably stationary or in some form of holding pattern then reacted based on Heimdall's process of blinking. *shrug*
In any case I just always thought hitting someone at insane speeds requires nuance especially if it's a relatively small target from so far away. I'm considering factors like environmental, movement by target even minimal, and timing(placement of blow) right before impact.The Shattered god feat, I'm of the same mind as Bran. Still highly impressive though.
I also agree with Bran that Wonder Woman's feat is one of, if not the best combat speed feat in comics.