Originally posted by cdtm
Who hasn't broken the bands?Serious question, every time I see them, they're beaten. Even Iron Fist came close, if he wasn't weakened from absorbing sorcerers magic..
Plenty of characters haven't... including Colossus, Wendigo, Hulk, Juggernaut...
But they also fail to work often, you're right on that.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk said him and Nul were one of the same.
More of the "Hulk is Hulk" nonsense... please, stop 😂
OneDumgG0 made a giant respect thread for the Hulk... I disagreed with him on some feats, but even he considered the Hulk to be amped in Fear Itself.
We might argue to what degree he was, seeing as he was rather unimpressive in NA... but on paper, he was Pak's Hulk with a boost...
Originally posted by carver9
Anyways, I think Namor taking on evil Sentry and the Avengers are better than taking on Wakanda.
Not when you're just walking through the vibranium-core nuclear-tipped shells...
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
More of the "Hulk is Hulk" nonsense... please, stop 😂OneDumgG0 made a giant respect thread for the Hulk... I disagreed with him on some feats, but even he considered the Hulk to be amped in Fear Itself.
We might argue to what degree he was, seeing as he was rather unimpressive in NA... but on paper, he was Pak's Hulk with a boost...
Not when you're just walking through the vibranium-core nuclear-tipped shells...
Hulk outright tells us that Nul IS him.
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11127/111275401/5218285-0586325004-QFpPQ.jpg
His power, HIS rage, his STRENGTH and hate. It can not get any clearer than this. Yes, he was amped, throwing out tornadoes, lightning, etc... but his physical strength was all Hulk, nothing more. The craziest thing is, how can you amp Hulk strength when he can already become as strong as he wants, that doesnt make sense. It's like saying you can amp the power gem.
So what you're saying is that a being exactly equal to Hulk was bonded with Hulk and it didn't increase his strength?
So when you do math and you come to a head scratcher like "2 + 2 =" you just put "2" and no look walkoff while you look at the sunset and grin? And people are like "Why is he looking at the sun without glasses?" And they're like "He aced that math equation, he can look at any sun he wants. He can even look at my son in the bath!" At which point you shoot them this look:
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
What do you think is going to happen when you state that a Hulk with an amp is weaker than a Hulk without an amp?Hulk was knocked out in space. He woke up. Flew back to Earth. He could do that a 100 times in a row due to a healing factor. That doesn't mean he wins fights.
Anyway, it's outright stated that he was stronger than normal (the first comic I went to):
http://i58.tinypic.com/2yyqe7d.jpg"Greatly elevated"
And Nul on his own was just as strong as Hulk (WWH at the time) with all of his power, and none of his personality. Without the hammer, and without the Hulk:
http://i58.tinypic.com/n1otg1.jpg
http://i60.tinypic.com/2whgmqq.jpg"Power enhancing"
http://i62.tinypic.com/em5qa.jpgThis whole "His personality" thing has been talked about before. And frankly asking for proof of it when the whole premise alone disproves it doesn't work. Until someone can show a scan of someone saying he's weaker... I mean, the proof thing works from both angles, and the Hulk being weaker isn't something that's supported.
Not to mention he was still calling himself Hulk. He recognized people. He remembered about Thor. Etc.Thor wasn't knocked out in the stratosphere, nor did he land hundreds of miles away never to return. He was actually unhurt too iirc. And people still count that as a win anyway.
Thor won against an amped WWH. Simple really. Whether he could repeat that again is anyone's guess. But the fact remains is that it happened.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
So what you're saying is that a being exactly equal to Hulk was bonded with Hulk and it didn't increase his strength?So when you do math and you come to a head scratcher like "2 + 2 =" you just put "2" and no look walkoff while you look at the sunset and grin? And people are like "Why is he looking at the sun without glasses?" And they're like "He aced that math equation, he can look at any sun he wants. He can even look at my son in the bath!" At which point you shoot them this look:
Me and you had a huge discussion on this a while back. Who was equal to Hulk? What I am saying is, Nul was physically Hulks equal because he was the Hulk. Hulk ended up breaking free but Nul found a way to resurface. Hulk went out to kill Nul but he realized he couldnt due to them possibly merging again if he came within the vicinity of Nul. He then gathers a group of heros to take out Nul warning them that Nul possess all of his physical might plus hate. I'm sure this is what he said.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
What does this mean Carver. I lost my glasses
Never said he didnt have additional power added to him. What I am saying is, his STRENGTH wasnt amped. Hulk himself confirms this in a later issue. Then, the data they had on Hulk wasnt even legit because they thought that adamantium netting amped with the weight of Jupiter was enough to stop Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9
Never said he didnt have additional power added to him. What I am saying is, his STRENGTH wasnt amped. Hulk himself confirms this in a later issue. Then, the data they had on Hulk wasnt even legit because they thought that adamantium netting amped with the weight of Jupiter was enough to stop Hulk.
Good retort. I had to scour the internet to find this.
Originally posted by carver9So you're saying Hulk did something they didn't think was possible based on their data, and that is proof that he wasn't amped?
Then, the data they had on Hulk wasnt even legit because they thought that adamantium netting amped with the weight of Jupiter was enough to stop Hulk.
"The machine said you can only lift 100 pounds. I see you've taken a lot of roids since then and can now lift 300 pounds. Your strength is exactly the same."
