Why are Religious Institutions automatically tax exempt?

Started by Tzeentch3 pages

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Okay. And? I can point to many other churches where they're running on a deficit.
And I can point to many people on welfare who live in squalor yet retards still use Shan'eqa owning a pair of new nikes or a new car as evidence that welfare is evil. Oh well.

Originally posted by BackFire
They should not be tax exempt. Religions are a business now, they make a lot of money. They should all be taxed.

I agree. I also like Rob's idea about allowing exemptions for doing "charitable" works like soup lines etc.

Re: Why are Religious Institutions automatically tax exempt?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
https://ffrf.org/outreach/item/12601-tax-exemption-of-churches

Why are charities and universities?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Honest question: Why should Planned Parenthood be tax exempt?

I'm no lawyer, but I believe there's a question of a public good used to determine who gets an exemption.

So a non profit would presumably exist not to make someone rich, but to serve the public in some way.

Hence, Yale gets to owns miles of land without being taxed a dime.

Originally posted by Playmaker
As said by Chief Justice Marshall, "That the power to tax involves the power to destroy." Their exempt because if the State or Federal Government doesn't like what a Religious Institution is saying they can simply tax them out of existence.

That is a tacit acknowledgement that religions cannot survive in a free market—that they need to be subsidized by taxpayers, because parishioners alone cannot keep them afloat.

Originally posted by Robtard
Been reading on the FairTax, it sounds too good to be true and I can't see it ever being implemented as it doesn't benefit the rich all that much. There's a reason why the tax code is written to be nearly indecipherable by anyone except lawyers.

The "Fair Tax" is simply a new name for the consumption tax, which disproportionately penalizes the poor and benefits the rich. There is nothing "fair" about it.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Honest question: Why should Planned Parenthood be tax exempt?

For every dollar Planned Parenthood receives, U.S. taxpayers save seven dollars. They are a net benefit to the country, and they do not generate a profit.

Now tell me why Lakewood Church should be tax exempt.

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm no lawyer, but I believe there's a question of a public good used to determine who gets an exemption.

So a non profit would presumably exist not to make someone rich, but to serve the public in some way.

Hence, Yale gets to owns miles of land without being taxed a dime.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
For every dollar Planned Parenthood receives, U.S. taxpayers save seven dollars. They are a net benefit to the country, and they do not generate a profit.

Now tell me why Lakewood Church should be tax exempt.

So basically a non-profit that provides public good is a good reason to be tax exempt?

If PP doesn't generate a profit, where does all the money for lobbying come from?

I don't know what Lakewood Church is so how should I know?

For every dollar Planned Parenthood receives, U.S. taxpayers save seven dollars. They are a net benefit to the country, and they do not generate a profit.

Actually the article stated:

Today it is estimated that every dollar spent on publicly funded family planning yields a savings of $7.09 in public expenditures.

https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/publicly-funded-family-planning-services-united-states

Planned Parenthood is just a clinic that takes insurance and medicaid and could easily be replaced with more local clinics. Realistically it shouldn't be funded by the govt(because its charging for services and is already receving payment via medicaid in many/most cases.) Its services aren't free.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The "Fair Tax" is simply a new name for the consumption tax, which disproportionately penalizes the poor and benefits the rich. There is nothing "fair" about it.

Then please explain what is fair.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The "Fair Tax" is simply a new name for the consumption tax, which disproportionately penalizes the poor and benefits the rich. There is nothing "fair" about it.

I only skimmed the website, seemed more like everyone benefits as it's consumer based taxes?

Realistically they are probably tax exempt as they do good for the world for it is good that life remains with the earth.

My stance is that they should be able to choose between tax exempt or spending money politically but not both.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The "Fair Tax" is simply a new name for the consumption tax, which disproportionately penalizes the poor and benefits the rich. There is nothing "fair" about it.

I think that's a myth perpetuated by Republicans who don't want a FairTax, actually (because their big business partners lose their loopholes):

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The "Fair Tax" is simply a new name for the consumption tax, which disproportionately penalizes the poor and benefits the rich. There is nothing "fair" about it.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
For every dollar Planned Parenthood receives, U.S. taxpayers save seven dollars. They are a net benefit to the country, and they do not generate a profit.

Now tell me why Lakewood Church should be tax exempt.

Oh I bet both of these "Points" could be rather easily debated. Or just out right proved WRONG!!!!

Aka Lies of the Left on Parade.

Originally posted by Robtard
I only skimmed the website, seemed more like everyone benefits as it's consumer based taxes?

If you Only Skimmed that means You don't really KNOW what it said. Try again Robbie.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
So basically a non-profit that provides public good is a good reason to be tax exempt?

If PP doesn't generate a profit, where does all the money for lobbying come from?

I don't know what Lakewood Church is so how should I know?

I am done indulging people who can ask questions of others, but cannot answer questions posed to them, for the day.

Originally posted by Playmaker
Then please explain what is fair.

That churches, pastors, and parishioners pay taxes. I think that is fairly clear.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
My stance is that they should be able to choose between tax exempt or spending money politically but not both.

That is the system we have now, and it is clearly not working.

Focus on the Family recently declared itself a church so it does not have to publicly disclose its donors or its earnings.

They are effectively using the tax exempt status granted to churches to launder unlimited amounts of dark money in conservative politics.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
That churches, pastors, and parishioners pay taxes. I think that is fairly clear.

While I agree that it is fair, you didn't answer "why", you answered "who."

I think it is fair if churches, charities, everyone have to pay taxes. With no one getting an exemption. Because no one can exploit the system and legitimate charities, under certain tax systems, would have no issues paying taxes.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I am done indulging people who can ask questions of others, but cannot answer questions posed to them, for the day.

You asked me a question that I have no information on and I answered honestly instead of pretending to know something I do not. How is that not an answer? Why be upset over ppl being honest to you?