Anti-Monitor vs. Galactus

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Yes, without any doubt, COIE AM oppositionwas far higher.
Let’s not dilly dally here. Superbly Prime was wrecking people left and right and he was just one pre crisis characters. COIE was obliterating universe without any AMs. This universes were arguably PreCrisis characters.

The guardians possibly have emotional level. Let’s not forget that they locked/stores that away. Furthermore, Prime was able to get one guardian to self destruct and couldn’t even kill a Prime. They all attacked AM and without harming him.

There is no possible way that AM in SCW is anywhere close to his COIE version.

And just one guardian's power was enough for SBP to go toe to toe with Monarch himself.

How does that works out for you?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, because blasting Prime with energy worked so well for Monarch. At least the blast from Guardian ripped him apart at a molecular level.

And just one guardian's power was enough for SBP to go toe to toe with Monarch himself.

How does that works out for you?

It gave SBP an amp to become his adult self. We don’t know what his outcome would have been against Monarch.

Moreso, at best, you’re arguing that one guardian is equal to one weak kryptonian teenager from precrisis era. AM initially killed an entire universe filled with plenty krytpnians

It’s not even a comparison to compare COIE and SCW version.
The gap is Powers is too big to try and argue.

You can blame johns writing or whatever you want. It doesn’t change on panel events

Originally posted by xJLxKing
It gave SBP an amp to become his adult self. We don’t know what his outcome would have been against Monarch.

Moreso, at best, you’re arguing that one guardian is equal to one weak kryptonian teenager from precrisis era. AM initially killed an entire universe filled with plenty krytpnians

It’s not even a comparison to compare COIE and SCW version.
The gap is Powers is too big to try and argue.

You can blame johns writing or whatever you want. It doesn’t change on panel events

SBP grew in power after COIE, in COIE Kal L was stronger than him but after he came back Kal L was no match for him.

There is only one remark about AM that he was not fully reborn yet and nothing more.

Even COIE AM would've had problems with half a dozen Guardians working in tendem. That's why he used CPB to incapacitate them by a suckershot.

😂

Delusional.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Uh what? The guardian had more effect on SBP than Monarch destroying an entire universe on him did.

SBP grew in power after COIE, in COIE Kal L was stronger than him but after he came back Kal L was no match for him.

There is only one remark about AM that he was not fully reborn yet and nothing more.

Even COIE AM would've had problems with half a dozen Guardians working in tendem. That's why he used CPB to incapacitate them by a suckershot.

Are you saying Kal L we see in IC is as strong as he was in COIE?
Because now you’re arguing something that really should be debated

You’re basically saying Kal L is precrisis level. We also know Kal el stalemated him. You’re going to tell SBP is above pre crisis levels and that Kal el and Kal L are equivalent to their ore crisis level

It really sounds like you’re going there

Kryptonian power levels were all sorts of contradictory.

Also, it's hard to compare the DCU and MU when it comes to the more cosmic beings. At DC, such beings tend to be more susceptible (illogically) to being affected by high-end superheroes, despite demonstrating widespread cosmic power on an equal or greater level.

Originally posted by Pillow Biter
Kryptonian power levels were all sorts of contradictory.

Also, it's hard to compare the DCU and MU when it comes to the more cosmic beings. At DC, such beings tend to be more susceptible (illogically) to being affected by high-end superheroes, despite demonstrating widespread cosmic power on an equal or greater level.

DC tried (to a point) to keep thit universal explosions to a minimum.

Marvel bathes in it

Originally posted by abhilegend

Why would Anti Monitor having trouble with half a dozen Guardians mean he was weak all of a sudden?

that's....NOT what i said. you're posting high feats for the guardians, cool. doesn't change the fact that coie am could--and did--literally destroy and absorb UNIVERSES. there was no indication, at all, that scw am could have done so.

he had a great durability feat but in no way demonstrated universe busting power.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
What effect did they have on him?
Teleporting him to another universe and giving him an amp.

Are you saying Kal L we see in IC is as strong as he was in COIE?
Because now you’re arguing something that really should be debated

You’re basically saying Kal L is precrisis level. We also know Kal el stalemated him. You’re going to tell SBP is above pre crisis levels and that Kal el and Kal L are equivalent to their ore crisis level

It really sounds like you’re going there

Yes, Kal L was as strong as ever, why wouldn't he be?

You're going in circles a lot here saying "do you really believe that?"

Why wouldn't I?

Originally posted by leonidas
that's....NOT what i said. you're posting high feats for the guardians, cool. doesn't change the fact that coie am could--and did--literally destroy and absorb UNIVERSES. there was no indication, at all, that scw am could have done so.

he had a great durability feat but in no way demonstrated universe busting power.

Johns always had Anti Monitor at universal level, he literally wrote it in Darkseid War.

It makes no sense, Anti Monitor doesn't has to destroy universes in every appearance to prove his power.

2 different versions of AM

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, he did. But different writers view power levels differently.

Johns always had Anti Monitor at universal level, he literally wrote it in Darkseid War.

It makes no sense, Anti Monitor doesn't has to destroy universes in every appearance to prove his power.

of course he doesn't but he has to display a certain level of power beyond a good durability feat to be considered a peer of someone like eternity.

since you're a fan of tangential reasoning, we saw what it took for a guardian to temporarily take out doomsday. by contrast, a true universal power in imperiex obliterated dd casually. you think 6 guardians could have had a chance at beating imperiex? he'd have likely one-shotted each or maybe wiped all 6 out at once. am was absolutely not packing that kind of power in the scw arc.

Regarding the COIE/SCW AM comparison: https://imgur.com/kgbKzE8

Originally posted by operator616
Regarding the COIE/SCW AM comparison: https://imgur.com/kgbKzE8

Guardians are PUNKS. Galactus would rape the entire lot of them so hard, Abhilgiend would #metoo him on twitter.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is he now? A random guardian vaporized SBP in the very same issue with his suicide which not even Monarch could do.

......

Did you forget Superman Prime or????

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why not? His touch alone killed a guardian.

Wait, are you talking about Scar? She didn't die...she was burned, and IIRC it was revealed she could even be healed but she wanted the injury to me a reminder.

https://i.imgur.com/fevLUol.jpg

Originally posted by operator616
Regarding the COIE/SCW AM comparison: https://imgur.com/kgbKzE8

thanks. i knew there was definitive proof out there but was too damn lazy to look through the arc. 👆

Originally posted by leonidas
of course he doesn't but he has to display a certain level of power beyond a good durability feat to be considered a peer of someone like eternity.

Nobody is comparing him to Eternity. You don't need to be Eternity level to beat Galactus. Elder God level is enough.

since you're a fan of tangential reasoning, we saw what it took for a guardian to temporarily take out doomsday. by contrast, a true universal power in imperiex obliterated dd casually.

you think 6 guardians could have had a chance at beating imperiex? he'd have likely one-shotted each or maybe wiped all 6 out at once. am was absolutely not packing that kind of power in the scw arc.

And you know this how? One guardian's power allowed SBP to fight Monarch himself.

Originally posted by operator616
Regarding the COIE/SCW AM comparison: https://imgur.com/kgbKzE8

SBP had enough juice to fight Monarch, yes

We don’t know the exact %increase in his power. For all we know it gave him a 20% boost and that was all SBP needed.

Originally posted by abhilegend

And you know this how? One guardian's power allowed SBP to fight Monarch himself.

His cells were drunk and his muscles were swollen on the Guardian's energy, but Kryptonian's are hyper-efficient furnaces....they more than any character would have the weakest correlation between energy input and output.

My man, Superman is literally powered by the ambient Sun-light he absorbs on his skin.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not fully reborn. Doesn't means not at full power. Even when Supergirl "almost" destroyed him, he destroyed anti matter universe and absorbed it completely.

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Not fully reborn does not mean at full power.

Ladies and Stilt, Abhilgened.