Odin was still old back when he and Hela were wrecking civilizations. Age doesn't really factor much into this fight.
That said, I don't think he can strip her of her powers. I feel like he would have done that over imprisoning her a few millennia if he could have. Still, based off implied power, I don't see him having much trouble with her.
Originally posted by RobtardExcept we have no idea how he defeated her. Was it in a straight up battle? Did he use any artifacts from his vault? For all we know he sneak attacked her from behind right after she slaughtered the Valkyries.
She's obviously more powerful than Thor, but she was still defeated by Odin and there's no reason to believe he couldn't do so again. Maybe he couldn't take away her powers and that's fine, maybe the two choices were kill Hela or imprison her; he chose gaol. Whatever it is, Odin beat her.Of note, if seems she was the first wielder of Mjolnir, or at least before it went to Thor's possession.
So even though he himself says he couldn't stop her, not wouldn't kill her or couldn't kill his own daughter, flat out couldnt stop her. In your opinion he meant he could have killed her but didn't want to and chose to lock her away instead. Knowing that she will be free one day upon his death, and that she is the bringer of Ragnarock and will destroy Asgard and possibly everything else, but did it anyway to spare her life. All after she already slaughtered his entire army of Valkyries that he sent to presumably kill her?
If so, that seems like a bit of a reach. I feel the more logical conclusion would be that he couldn't stop her like he said and had to imprisoner because it was his only option left.
Originally posted by Raptor22
I don't see why he would just be able to strip her power away like nothing, or imprisoned her on a whim.Just because he stripped Thor of his power doesn't mean he can do it to someone more powerful than Thor. If he could then why would he say things like
"Her violent appetite grew beyond my control"
"I couldn't stop her, so I imprisoned her. I locked her away"
I feel like if he could just strip her powers like he did to thor, then it would have been pretty easy for him to control her violent appetite and/or stop her, which he admitted he couldn't do.
Also we have no idea how he imprisoned her, what he used or what help he had. We do know that he sent the entire Valkyrie army after Hela first rather than facing her himself.
As for him keeping her imprisoned, I've always thought that he kept her locked away thru some sort of spell or enchantment that would only be removed/broken upon his death. Not that he was constantly powering what ever means he used to lock her away (if that was the case why wouldn't she have been freed when he was in the Odin sleep, or under lokis spell?) or because she was afraid to come back.
"My life was all that held her back, but my time has come. I can not keep her away any longer."
I always interpreted that as what ever spell or enchntment he used was tied to his life and when he dies she will be free, and his time was up.
Im not arguing that she would beat him, just that he just can't strip her powers or imprison her whenever he feels like it.
WOW! Great analysis man.
I would add to the fact that Odin specifically stated, "She draws her strength from Asgard...Once she reaches there her power will be limitless". To my criteria Odin defeated or imprisoned Hela outside Asgard. Otherwise, such a fight would leave colateral damage on Asgard...People would hear of it like we hear of WW2...Yet no one remembers Hela...No one heard of her. Probably the fight took place on a remote place, just Hela and Odin.
Old Odin loses.
Originally posted by Arachnid1Odin was still old back when he and Hela were wrecking civilizations. Age doesn't really factor much into this fight.
That said, I don't think he can strip her of her powers. I feel like he would have done that over imprisoning her a few millennia if he could have. Still, based off implied power, I don't see him having much trouble with her.
You know there is an enormous flaw in your statement right?
First of all, it's clear Odin still has his eye in that image.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J01AVlnHjeM
That image took place YEARS before Odin fought Laufey, the 9 realms were just conquered. Yet Odin was considerably younger in the wars between the Asgard and Jotunheim! Furthermore, Odin himself claimed they had a hard time defeating the Giants.
So it's clear that not only Odin was quite younger in his fight with Hela, but also that he was way more powerful...Remember that Odin did lost an eye against the Giants so, it's obvious he grew weaker.
Conclusion: Either Odin was way stronger in his youth or Hela was weaker, cause there is no way Frost Giants>>>Hela.
Originally posted by RobtardDing ding ding. 👆
She's obviously more powerful than Thor, but she was still defeated by Odin and there's no reason to believe he couldn't do so again. Maybe he couldn't take away her powers and that's fine, maybe the two choices were kill Hela or imprison her; he chose gaol. Whatever it is, Odin beat her.Of note, if seems she was the first wielder of Mjolnir, or at least before it went to Thor's possession.
Originally posted by Silent Masternot seeing how that's more likely. Which scene in the movie did Odin say he didn't want to kill her? Was it after he sent his entire host of his most elite warriors to charge at her with swords on their flying horses?
More likely, he didn't strip her of her powers as no powers would mean no extended life span. He didn't want to kill her.
Originally posted by Silent MasterI'll give u credit for doing a nice little dance around the question. I'll ask it again and I suggest this time u pay attention. Which scene in the movie did Odin say he didn't want to kill her?
He did that to keep her imprisoned, not kill her. May I suggest watching the movie again and this time paying attention.
Originally posted by Raptor22
U made the claim - "He didn't want to kill her." - Silent Master. Back it up with something or don't, I could care less either way.
I always love it when someone who devotes multiple posts to something turns around and claims they don't care either way. Yeah, we believe you.
By the way, I didn't make a claim. If you actually read my post before deciding to have a hissy fit, you would notice I said "more likely". That isn't making a claim. That is saying of all the possible reasons for his actions, this is the one I think is, wait for it. Most likely.
Originally posted by Silent Masterok. That's a strange thing to love but I'm glad u found something that makes u happy.
I always love it when someone who devotes multiple posts to something turns around and claims they don't care either way. Yeah, we believe you.By the way, I didn't make a claim. If you actually read my post before deciding to have a hissy fit, you would notice I said "more likely". That isn't making a claim. That is saying of all the possible reasons for his actions, this is the one I think is, wait for it. Most likely.
So are u going to back up ur post with any evidence or were u just tossing your opinion out there without any proof?
Originally posted by Silent Master
I always love it when someone who devotes multiple posts to something turns around and claims they don't care either way. Yeah, we believe you.By the way, I didn't make a claim. If you actually read my post before deciding to have a hissy fit, you would notice I said "more likely". That isn't making a claim. That is saying of all the possible reasons for his actions, this is the one I think is, wait for it. Most likely.
Ehhhh..... 😂
Originally posted by Silent Master
More likely, he didn't strip her of her powers as no powers would mean no extended life span. He didn't want to kill her.
It's clear there is a PERIOD separating the sentences. Which means the 'MORE LIKELY' doesn't apply for your next statement.
Therefore, you did claimed that he didn't wanted to kill her.
Man Silent, your lying abilities are increasing over the years it seems to me 😂