Originally posted by BrolyBlackThey were evidently equals when we first saw them. Then Cumber went SSJ3, which should have definitely put him above Jiren at that point... But their fight was interrupted like a second later so it's impossible to say.
Who would have won the fight btw Cumber and Jiren?Seemed like Jiren easily.
We also don't know how much power Jiren was using either. Certainly didn't seem like he was exerting himself much, but it's hard to tell with him. After all, there's no real visual difference between Jiren when he's completely suppressed and when he's using his full power -- he looks the exact same. It's only when he activates "TEH LIMIT-BREAKAH!!!" that his physical form actually changes noticeably and he gains a constant power-aura.
Originally posted by Galan007
They were evidently equals when we first saw them. Then Cumber went SSJ3, which should have definitely put him above Jiren at that point... But their fight was interrupted like a second later so it's impossible to say.We also don't know how much power Jiren was using either. Certainly didn't seem like he was exerting himself much, but it's hard to tell with him. After all, there's no real visual difference between Jiren when he's completely suppressed and when he's using his full power -- he looks the exact same. It's only when he activates "TEH LIMIT-BREAKAH!!!" that his physical form actually changes noticeably and he gains a constant power-aura.
I think Jiren would beat him.
Originally posted by BestDebaterEverHe may have been. As mentioned: it didn't seem like he was overly exerting himself.
I thought it was clear Jiren was immensely suppressed.
I'm just saying that we don't know one way or the other, as there is literally no difference(from a visual standpoint) between a suppressed Jiren and a full power Jiren -- he looks the exact same until he goes full LB. That said, I'm sure Jiren's power-usage will be clarified later in the arc when he and Cumber inevitably fight again.
Preview for the next episode(which is slated for release mid-April):
Goku, who has activated his Ultra Instinct (Omen), commences a fierce attack on the Core Area's warriors. Vegeta, who was caught off-guard and absorbed by Oren, trembles with rage. Will they be able to mount a counterattack against the Core Area's warriors, whose limits they still haven't seen?!
Originally posted by Galan007
He may have been. As mentioned: it didn't seem like he was overly exerting himself.I'm just saying that we don't know one way or the other, as there is literally no difference(from a visual standpoint) between a suppressed Jiren and a full power Jiren -- he looks the exact same until he goes full LB. That said, I'm sure Jiren's power-usage will be clarified later in the arc when he and Cumber inevitably fight again.
He powered up at least two times before going no limits though. So clearly he was not trying at all. Cumber didn’t even seem to phase him. He def phased Cumber even in SS3.
Ep.10 is up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJdAvRtyZW4
Originally posted by Estacado
Also fused Zamasu standing up to Jiren is pretty lulz...
How is it even possible for Jiren to defeat MZ? It should be impossible (outside of sealing). And if they give MZ Black abilites to easily rise power further and further, what is Jiren going to do?, but even without, Jiren can't win this and in a long battle he dies against MZ.
Fun episode, though the Meta Cooler tease was out of left field.
Link was removed, I guess.
Here's another:
YouTube video
Why isn't anyone Mafuba'ing Zamasu, and/or using the special sealing technique Whis spoke of? He is completely unbeatable otherwise...
And yeah, Meta-Cooler seems like a really strange asspull from Fu. Don't know how they'll justify him being as ridiculously powerful as I'm sure he'll be, but whatevs...