New Gods vs the Marvel 616 Earth

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Originally posted by TheHulkster
Hank Henshaw does so fairly easily.

And Cyborg Superman has travelled the universe, no doubt encountering alien tech along the way. Probably New God tech for that matter. Like intangibility, not all things are created equal.

Originally posted by Faceless808
Thank YOU, DS! 👆 👆

That portion was also able to take on Darkseid, albeit he was more powerful. Less hype is what's needed here.

What was hyped about it? Wonder Woman did well against DS. it's shown on panel. And so was the Zeus DS fight. DS won. Nothing was misrepresented here.

Originally posted by Faceless808
New Genesis tech is not just circuitry. Mother Boxes are connected directly to the Source, described as an aspect of the Presence. IOW, a Divine connection. I am not convinced that it can be hacked as easily as you say, regardless of it hacking into Galactus computer.

Respectfully, Galactus isnt just circuitry either, his pedigree is just as impressive.
So, yes, i believe the MBs (and Worlogog) DC’s plot devices, can be hacked by Marvel’s plot device.

Originally posted by Faceless808
What was hyped about it? Wonder Woman did well against DS. it's shown on panel. And so was the Zeus DS fight. DS won. Nothing was misrepresented here.

Careful, or I may accuse you of leaving out the context that we both know was left out in your comment concerning Zeus' mugging at the hands of a power thief.

DS didn't truly defeat Zeus, and if he did it wasn't a convincing victory.

No, really, I'm not aware of a power thief. I've only seen the scans. What happened? And why wasn't it a convincing victory?

Are you talking about DS absorbing Zeus' energy? If that is so, then how is that different from Tyrant absorbing energy from Galactus?

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I never claimed Galactus tech is just circuitry. I'm just saying that regardless of what it did to Galactus, NG tech is different. BTW, I think Galactus tech being hacked was BS.

Originally posted by Faceless808
No, really, I'm not aware of a power thief. I've only seen the scans. What happened? And why wasn't it a convincing victory?

Are you talking about DS absorbing Zeus' energy? If that is so, then how is that different from Tyrant absorbing energy from Galactus?

Tyrant never needed the power of anyone to wreck Galactus. He was absorbing BSE for quite some time before ever running into any of the heroes. With Tyrant it was just plot that he didn't walk in and shove Galactus' head up his ass from the go.

Darkseid stole all that he had. DS also has to prove that he is a Sky Father at this point. TBH he has to prove that he belongs in the Trans tier because most trans level characters would have easily put Diana out with a slap or two.

Then again as Darksaint once pointed out, there are times in comics that power levels aren't regarded and writers just want pretty confrontations. Have to wait and see. From what I see, the New Gods would be a serious threat to Earth 6t16, but not impossible to defeat based on past victories.

Originally posted by Faceless808
And Cyborg Superman has travelled the universe, no doubt encountering alien tech along the way. Probably New God tech for that matter. Like intangibility, not all things are created equal.

Hank Henshaw was able to overtake a portion of the source wall (which is definitely not pure tech -- in regards to your previous points), so there you have it...

He's also taken over advanced planets easily and has even weaponized them instantaneously. Not to mention him controlling armies of manhunters and highmasters (capable of destroying planets) or alpha lanterns even (who are well above GLs). Among other things. He's just extremely powerful technopath all around.

Henshaw overtaking it in no way diminished The New Gods/Apokolips.

marvel earth have beings that'll beat the new gods asses in physical strength

Originally posted by operator616
Hank Henshaw was able to overtake a portion of the source wall (which is definitely not pure tech -- in regards to your previous points), so there you have it...

He's also taken over advanced planets easily and has even weaponized them instantaneously. Not to mention him controlling armies of manhunters and highmasters (capable of destroying planets) or alpha lanterns even (who are well above GLs). Among other things. He's just extremely powerful technopath all around.

Henshaw overtaking it in no way diminished The New Gods/Apokolips.

Thank you, Operator. My point exactly. Just because Henshaw did it (to the New Gods) doesn't mean anybody with a computer can.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
marvel earth have beings that'll beat the new gods asses in physical strength

Baziemarc, I'm not interested in going toe to toe with you and your biased opinions. You can beef it out with another fan boy on this, I'm not wasting my time on you.

Originally posted by Stoic
Tyrant never needed the power of anyone to wreck Galactus. He was absorbing BSE for quite some time before ever running into any of the heroes. With Tyrant it was just plot that he didn't walk in and shove Galactus' head up his ass from the go.

Darkseid stole all that he had. DS also has to prove that he is a Sky Father at this point. TBH he has to prove that he belongs in the Trans tier because most trans level characters would have easily put Diana out with a slap or two.

Then again as Darksaint once pointed out, there are times in comics that power levels aren't regarded and writers just want pretty confrontations. Have to wait and see. From what I see, the New Gods would be a serious threat to Earth 6t16, but not impossible to defeat based on past victories.

I understand your point about Tyrant. But whether you're stockpileing power prior to or taking it in the heat of battle, I don't see as big a difference as you do, obviously. But then again, I am only ASSUMING you were referring to DS absorbing Zeus power, and not a third party draining his power.

Yes, I agree with you and DS, but not once have I even mentioned that New Gods would win. I'm just throwing idea's out that I can think of and hoping for discussion with more knowledgable posters.

Worlogog can a big trouble, but Marvel has the Infinity Guantlet.

Hard to say.

Originally posted by twt
Worlogog can a big trouble, but Marvel has the Infinity Guantlet.

Hard to say.

Technically, it is Marvel 616 Earth. Does the IG reside on Marvel Earth? I am not current on much of anything and really want to know.

I scrolled by Tyrant too...

Marvel Earth is a very inclusive place.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I scrolled by Tyrant too...

Marvel Earth is a very inclusive place.

😆 😆

I just mentioned Tyrant because Darkseid beating Zeus was in question and I compared it to the Tyrant/Galactus battle.

Zeus currently doesn't have any skyfather feats

Marvel earth has Franklin Richards, Legion, and Molecule Man etc; plus add in earths pantheon Asgardian, Olympians, Egyptians, Hindu etc yeah marvel earth wins this

Originally posted by the Darkone
Marvel earth has Franklin Richards, Legion, and Molecule Man etc; plus add in earths pantheon Asgardian, Olympians, Egyptians, Hindu etc yeah marvel earth wins this
It has one of those characters on it. Legion.

The rest reside in pocket dimensions or in completely other universes.