Superman vs Graviton

Originally posted by carver9
You can though. There are people listed as high Herald who doesnt have a single planetary level ft. Its mainly based off who you have fought.

Despero and HP Doomsday are listed as trans tier beings. Do you honestly believe either of these two can destroy a star? Doomsday doesnt hold back at all and have hit the ground on many of occasion and have as of yet to wreck a planet, let alone anything less than that. So a star is completely out of the question.

You are confused about what I mean. You don't have to literally bust a planet to be planet level. You just need to have feats that produce a similar energy level.

It's not just about AoE, but attack potency. Even low power rookie Green Lantern shields can withstand supernovas. That same rookie GL shield would not hold up against even a single Doomsday punch.

Obviously Graviton can't bust a star, but I doubt his attack potency is even close to star level either.

Him terraforming the Earth's surface was considered a great showing of his power. So even a high feat for him is not even remotely close to planet level in energy output.

Nothing about him is trans tier. He is low herald by feats unless I'm missing something big. Thor jobbed big time to him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Doomsday has survived a blast that has torn a hole in space time, though.

Now tell me what Hulk have done.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
You are confused about what I mean. You don't have to literally bust a planet to be planet level. You just need to have feats that produce a similar energy level.

It's not just about AoE, but attack potency. Even low power rookie Green Lantern shields can withstand supernovas. That same rookie GL shield would not hold up against even a single Doomsday punch.

Obviously Graviton can't bust a star, but I doubt his attack potency is even close to star level either.

Him terraforming the Earth's surface was considered a great showing of his power. So even a high feat for him is not even remotely close to planet level in energy output.

Nothing about him is trans tier. He is low herald by feats unless I'm missing something big. Thor jobbed big time to him.

Energy level?

So putting up a shield to survive an attack means you can dish out that type of power? Also, your argument is flawed. So you're saying since a GL shields (high ft) have survived a super nova and Doomsday (Wonder Woman, Superman, Lobo, Mongul, you get it) have cracked through their shields, Doomsday is producing star level punches? Is this the new trends?

I'm asking you what trans tier can bust a star?

Let's use your argument, Graviton held every hero on earth in place and some of those heros consisted of Hulk (do i honestly need to name his fts), Thor (do I honestly need to name his fts, along with other high tier beings. Is that enough for him to be in the trans tier level.

Why is he low herald?

Originally posted by carver9
Yes. Hulk has koed him in one hit before but in a fight like this, he would beat Hulk.

Does Graviton straight up beat Hulk or BFR him?

Originally posted by carver9
Energy level?

So putting up a shield to survive an attack means you can dish out that type of power? Also, your argument is flawed. So you're saying since a GL shields (high ft) have survived a super nova and Doomsday (Wonder Woman, Superman, Lobo, Mongul, you get it) have cracked through their shields, Doomsday is producing star level punches? Is this the new trends?

I'm asking you what trans tier can bust a star?

Let's use your argument, Graviton held every hero on earth in place and some of those heros consisted of Hulk (do i honestly need to name his fts), Thor (do I honestly need to name his fts, along with other high tier beings. Is that enough for him to be in the trans tier level.

Why is he low herald?

Originally posted by carver9
Now tell me what Hulk have done.

Not the point?

Point was that Doomsday hasn't cracked a star or a planet....but has survived feats that are above that, so it should be ok.

Originally posted by abhilegend
When did Hulk oneshot koed him?

Does Graviton straight up beat Hulk or BFR him?

Superman is no Hulk...

Also, yes, Gravs straight up beats him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not the point?

Point was that Doomsday hasn't cracked a star or a planet....but has survived feats that are above that, so it should be ok.

Not on average though and it shouldn't be ok. Dont understand why Doomy gets leeway while other characters doesnt. He can not bust a sun and what type of pressure does it take to affect space time?

Originally posted by carver9
Superman is no Hulk...

Also, yes, Gravs straight up beats him.

Originally posted by carver9
Not on average though and it shouldn't be ok. Dont understand why Doomy gets leeway while other characters doesnt. He can not bust a sun and what type of pressure does it take to affect space time?

how much pressure does it take hulk to "punch through time" or any of the other punching feats he has? lets see if you give the same treatment to hulk like you were trying to do orion in that other thread when you mentioned how powerful a collapsing boomtube was.

Originally posted by abhilegend
By jumping him? Wow, Hulk is almost Spider-Man level.

So you havent used similar fts to justify Superman as being almighty?

Originally posted by carver9
So you havent used similar fts to justify Superman as being almighty?

Originally posted by ghostman
how much pressure does it take hulk to "punch through time" or any of the other punching feats he has? lets see if you give the same treatment to hulk like you were trying to do orion in that other thread when you mentioned how powerful a collapsing boomtube was.

I asked Darksaint this question because I dont know the answer to your question. Can you point me to the thread where I mention Hulk punching through time as anything close to star busting.

Originally posted by carver9
Not on average though and it shouldn't be ok. Dont understand why Doomy gets leeway while other characters doesnt. He can not bust a sun and what type of pressure does it take to affect space time?

Been answered:

https://www.quora.com/What-does-it-take-to-rupture-the-space-time-continuum-and-what-could-happen

IOW, he survived a black hole 🙂

On average? Please post the times he died against an attack that ruptured space and time.

So far, I have ONE instance of him surviving, out of ONE. That's a 100% batting average 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
I asked Darksaint this question because I dont know the answer to your question. Can you point me to the thread where I mention Hulk punching through time as anything close to star busting.

you asked darksaint this question because youdont know the answer to mine? even though you asked darksaint 2-3 days ago and mine was literally like less than 10 minutes ago?

so let me ask you again, much much pressure is needed to punch through time or any of hulks other punching feats. i will wait

Carver9, Ghostman is waiting for your reply.