Joker (2019)

Started by Darth Thor50 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ot dud not even break 700 million worldwide and if it was such a safe play Warner would do so. Not let go focus on other properties since making a great Superman film clearly is not easy.

Who said 700mill was the breaking even point?

It was profitable. End of story. An accomplishment of sorts given the previous 2 Superman films were flops. If WB saw it as a failure then they would not have pushed forward giving Snyder BvS, JL1 & JL2. Treating him like he was the Russos.

Now they hate Snyder for destroying the DCEU and are being idiotic to take that out on Cavill.

Again why does doing a Superman movie every 3/4 years mean you cant concentrate on other films? Youre making no sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Yes, it does Cavill wanted too much money and his films are not on an upward trajectory. Focus on other dc characters I have had enough. Thor owns him at the box office these days. Times have changed.

Well since MOS (and BvS) were both profitable and since the MI movie with him is the biggest MI movie to date, then why not ask for more?

Obviously I dont know the details but I highly doubt he was asking for Tom Cruise or RDJ money.

Lol Ragnarok made more than WW and JL. Does that mean we let WW go as well? You are making no sense.

Btw MOS made more than Thor:TDW which was out the same year.

Everyone here except you agrees that if theyve lost Cavill then they should just reboot after WW2.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Who said 700mill was the breaking even point?

It was profitable. End of story. An accomplishment of sorts given the previous 2 Superman films were flops. If WB saw it as a failure then they would not have pushed forward giving Snyder BvS, JL1 & JL2. Treating him like he was the Russos.

Now they hate Snyder for destroying the DCEU and are being idiotic to take that out on Cavill.

Again why does doing a Superman movie every 3/4 years mean you cant concentrate on other films? Youre making no sense.

Well since MOS (and BvS) were both profitable and since the MI movie with him is the biggest MI movie to date, then why not ask for more?

Obviously I dont know the details but I highly doubt he was asking for Tom Cruise or RDJ money.

Lol Ragnarok made more than WW and JL. Does that mean we let WW go as well? You are making no sense.

Btw MOS made more than Thor:TDW which was out the same year.

Everyone here except you agrees that if theyve lost Cavill then they should just reboot after WW2.

Point is it did not make enough to scream a sequel and was not universally loved. Cry more.

It is their business they see otherwise so quit crying about it. Cavill wanted too much money and thus far they have decided to go elsewhere which I applaud. The fans are not screaming for more Superman just a few butthurt Superman fans are.

Justice league happened so that changes your point since he was a part of it. WW was universally enjoyed unlike the divisive Mos. This is a dead forum so who cares. I care about what I want not you a Superman apologist. He is boring and has had multiple films time for something new.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1)Point is it did not make enough to scream a sequel and was not universally loved. Cry more.

2)It is their business they see otherwise so quit crying about it. Cavill wanted too much money and thus far they have decided to go elsewhere which I applaud. The fans are not screaming for more Superman just a few butthurt Superman fans are.

3)Justice league happened so that changes your point since he was a part of it. WW was universally enjoyed unlike the divisive Mos. This is a dead forum so who cares. I care about what I want not you a Superman apologist. He is boring and has had multiple films time for something new.

1) Clearly it did giving what they trusted Snyder with right after. Profitable franchises do warrant a sequel. They are just scared of the Snyder backlash now and taking it out on Cavill.

2) Yes and we know how well they have been handling their DC Business Lmao.

3) Putting JLs failure on him is outright laughable given he was the least marketed member of the team.

I get you are jealous of Superman, but try applying some common sense sometimes.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
1) Clearly it did giving what they trusted Snyder with right after. Profitable franchises do warrant a sequel. They are just scared of the Snyder backlash now and taking it out on Cavill.

2) Yes and we know how well they have been handling their DC Business Lmao.

3) Putting JLs failure on him is outright laughable given he was the least marketed member of the team.

I get you are jealous of Superman, but try applying some common sense sometimes.

1. snyder made Mos and like I said it dud not make gangbusters and was not universally loved. Nah, we saw Whedon and his jl fail with Superman.

2. Hence why have switched strategies you moron. Shoving Superman and Batman down our throats failed utterly. Devalued the brand so lesser knowns and smaller budgets with a newer strategy. Old one failed with those characters.

3. A collective fail. New strategy is required but since WW was profitable and loved a sequel is greenlit. This is not hard to figure out.

He sucks and has failed. I love how you are triggered over it. You are a huge Superman ******. **** you and your weak ass failure of a hero. Make mine Marvel.

1) So you need to make gangbusters now to warrant a sequel? Lol
It was the second best received film in the DCEU thus far 😬

2) Right.. Changing brands from Superman to Supergirl and from Batman to Batgirl. They sure are running running from the Bat and Supes brand arent they? Lmao
Nah they are being retarded like you.

3) You dont have a brain. With your strategy hey never would given us Hulk again after TIH. And that actually Flopped!

Lol you are so butthurt over Superman. Its pretty funny, and pretty sad.

Well according to HollywoodThink now if your movie don't break a Billion, it is almost considered a Bomb now.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Well according to HollywoodThink now if your movie don't break a Billion, it is almost considered a Bomb now. [/B]

They must have Retard Quan advising them.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
They must have Retard Quan advising them.

Meet the New Generation of Fandom.

FanDum maybe?

Oh I mean.... WE WIN!!!!!

Originally posted by Darth Thor
1) So you need to make gangbusters now to warrant a sequel? Lol
It was the second best received film in the DCEU thus far 😬

2) Right.. Changing brands from Superman to Supergirl and from Batman to Batgirl. They sure are running running from the Bat and Supes brand arent they? Lmao
Nah they are being retarded like you.

3) You dont have a brain. With your strategy hey never would given us Hulk again after TIH. And that actually Flopped!

Lol you are so butthurt over Superman. Its pretty funny, and pretty sad.

1. It did not do so and was quite polarizing which does not bode well for a sequel. It is not automatic you moron. That is not saying much WW is the best film and she is the best hero of the dceu. Far better than Superman.

2. They are completely different characters with different histories, etc. They also have not greenlit them either. Superman has had enough screen time he failed. Let it go. He had multiple chances. No, they are trying something new which I applaud but Shazam sucks so I cannot say I back every single decision but I am hopeful for Aquaman and WW 1984.

3. They have done fine without a Hulk solo film so they learned and might try later. Hulk was fantastic in Thor Ragnarok. MCU learned they did not try to shove the Hulk down our throats in solo films but that is a whole mess with Universal anyways.

You are the one crying he is being forgotten. I am loving it. **** Superman and **** you, cuck.

Thanos is my guy and he is THE MAIN CHARACTER in the best movie of all time. I told you for years and some who are now trying to jump on my marvel bandwagon.

Thanos reigns supreme Superman is pitiful in todays times. 😂

^ All been addressed. Youre just being a bit dumb. Youre the only one who thinks they shouldnt keep Cavill and they shouldnt reboot either.

But yeah keep crying like a weirdo 👆

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ All been addressed. Youre just being a bit dumb. Youre the only one who thinks they shouldnt keep Cavill and they shouldnt reboot either.

But yeah keep crying like a weirdo 👆

They do not have to do either. They can use Cavill down the road or not at all. There are a lot of options you are just butthurt because Supermanis devalued these days. Deal with it, cuck.

Thanos reigns supreme Superman is lying in a gutter somewhere wondering why the majority has forgotten him.

Did some numbers from boxofficemojo:

-Ironman raked in $585m on a budget of $140m, profit is $445m. Adjusted to 2013 dollars that is $481m

-Man of Steel raked in $668m on a budget of $225m, profit $443m

Considering both Ironman and Man of Steel were the first films in both their own new franchise and their extended film universe and considering they had similar earnings (+/- 10%), WB should have done a sequel to MoS before BvS, in fact, they should have squeezed in MoS2, WW and a solo Batman film before BvS.

^ They shouldnt have done BvS. That was just them rushing to catch up with Marvel. Big mistake.

The first time we should have seen Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman together should have been in Justice League IMO. And that after Wonder Woman and MOS2.

B vs. S was not a bad idea the film was just terrible. Make good films that are universally loved and they will work ie. WW. MoS was not universally loved. It was bad imo. It has aged better but still is not a good film just not as bad as I thought the first time I saw it.

BvS only sucked more for trying to fit in too much and rush into Justice League.

The 3rd act of that film was Justice League. The Big 3 together for the first time. And we get that right after MOS 😬

Originally posted by Darth Thor
BvS only sucked more for trying to fit in too much and rush into Justice League.

The 3rd act of that film was Justice League. The Big 3 together for the first time. And we get that right after MOS 😬

Again the execution was bad and not even optimal for MoS. WW worked because most enjoyed it and it was financially succcessul.

Originally posted by Robtard
Did some numbers from boxofficemojo:

-Ironman raked in $585m on a budget of $140m, profit is $445m. Adjusted to 2013 dollars that is $481m

-Man of Steel raked in $668m on a budget of $225m, profit $443m

Considering both Ironman and Man of Steel were the first films in both their own new franchise and their extended film universe and considering they had similar earnings (+/- 10%), WB should have done a sequel to MoS before BvS, in fact, they should have squeezed in MoS2, WW and a solo Batman film before BvS.

Well, Christopher McQuairrie wants to do one with Cavil. Do it, WB!

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Well, Christopher McQuairrie wants to do one with Cavil. Do it, WB!
He is already doing the Witcher. Best of luck Cavill.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Well, Christopher McQuairrie wants to do one with Cavil. Do it, WB!

cavil is done... affleck could be as well.. dceu is dead.. its been destroyed

........anyway.

The Joker test caught my attention, plus it’s not in continuity with that Jared Leto shit. Scorsese is producing as well.

I’m hoping this film gets rave reviews. From the looks of it they’re giving the creators a lot of leeway but who knows.

As for the DCU, it’s a ****ing mess....they just lost Superman and Batman, in many ways idgaf, if Gal Gadot left...I’d be ****ing pissed.

I hope they get their shit together.

As for their films, mos was ok, BVS was boring, JL, was better then most of the shit they put out.

God help them if aquaman and Shazam bomb