[Battlezone discussion thread] Magneto vs World War Hulk

Started by Philosophía7 pages

Thank you to the judges for taking the time with the match, and thanks to everybody who chimed in, and a special thanks of course to...

Originally posted by Damborgson
Congrats Phil 👆

Was super fun 🙂

Now...

Jesus Christ, that was hard. I should've argued for close range but wanted an untainted victory. I had no idea also that Magneto could multi task like that 😂 there was no way I was going to distract him enough, he was truly a powerful creature that was debated well with as well.

Cosmic , what speed feats are you talking about? The one I posted was pretty ducking fast.

Yeah, Magneto is the shit. You did as well as one can do, but Magneto is the proper combination of raw power and ridiculous versatility that one like Hulk cannot get past in a non-PIS environment [so you might see why Carver's claims of trans tier were funny...lol]. I was beating myself afterwards for not using Magneto creating a wormhole [yeah...] in order to cement the gravity control, but I didn't see you say anything about it in the rebuttal, so I focused on the other stuff. But, Mags is basically "if this doesn't work, I can still do 5 other things for the exact same effect" type of character.

Congrats for a match well fought 👆

Good match all.

Carver is a true gentleman, and whilst I was the host I also had a dog in this fight.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Good match all.

Carver is a true gentleman, and whilst I was the host I also had a dog in this fight.

*barks angrily*

Originally posted by Philosophía
Thank you to the judges for taking the time with the match, and thanks to everybody who chimed in, and a special thanks of course to...

Yeah, Magneto is the shit. You did as well as one can do, but Magneto is the proper combination of raw power and ridiculous versatility that one like Hulk cannot get past in a non-PIS environment [so you might see why Carver's claims of trans tier were funny...lol]. I was beating myself afterwards for not using Magneto creating a wormhole [yeah...] in order to cement the gravity control, but I didn't see you say anything about it in the rebuttal, so I focused on the other stuff. But, Mags is basically "if this doesn't work, I can still do 5 other things for the exact same effect" type of character.

Congrats for a match well fought 👆


I just wanted to show you this Philo, Havok wrecking Hulk via absorbing his radiation and shooting him with it :

Originally posted by zopzop
I just wanted to show you this Philo, Havok wrecking Hulk via absorbing his radiation and shooting him with it :
Heh, I didn't want to use gamma drain since sometimes it works, sometimes not, and I didn't want to turn it into a draining argument - and also, this particular World War Hulk version has the Darwin scene, which doesn't look at it favorably. I used his gamma constitution as a tool for other things [lifting, detecting] rather than a weakness.

This was definitely a handicap match where hulk was stripped of things against a guy who has everything almost anyone would want for a battlezone. It was a losing fight for Fernando but I would have gone with the endurance angle. "No worldbreaker" to me would just transform into an argument of hulk being almost incapable of expending energy enough to tire him (if that can even be proven to be possible as green scar) coupled with the rules of engagement being that bfr isn't an option, Magneto would have to bring everything to him and Fernando could have made quite a case there. The long range fight would be avoided completely. Think dr Strange vs hulk every time. Strange and magneto have a million powers but they are just "human" under all of that and hulk would need one finger flick to cave their torso in. Skip all their ability and get to that and that alone

Well I think I proved that Hulk would be on his ass nearly instantly even under these circumstances, and because Phil only really posted one short range gravity reversal feat, which Martian picked up on, it wasn't a secured victory to just get me off my feet and start butchering me.

I think the big issue still came from how good Magneto was at multi tasking. Too many damn options while being airborne and whatnot. Other than that I also should have put my pride aside and negotiated some perks for Hulk lol. The poor boy usually gets a little plot assistance to help him. But ah well.

Next time, ill get my chance with Thor -rubs hands-

At the end of the day, the best Hulk fan of the board stepped up for an entertaining match

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
At the end of the day, the best Hulk fan of the board stepped up for an entertaining match
👆

I got an exclusive interview with the rest of the Hulk fans for their thoughts on the match, btw:

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