Originally posted by zopzop
We're talking about the Kurse that Beyonder amped twice right? He kills her in either scenario.
No he doesn't. If WW can see bullets and energy beams in slow motion then Kurse would be a statue like in Metroman.
Diana would have all the time in the world to put him down.
With her gear then this is spite.
Originally posted by riv6672This is a fight not a keep away contest.
I must have seen the name "Kurse" a half dozen or even a full dozen times over the years. Not once can I recall having actually seen an image of this guy, let alone Kurse actually fighting someone.
Today I decided to do something about it.
Summary of discovery, I am left underwhelmed.
Wonder Woman under John Byrne dished out more than what put this guy down the first time; I'm not seeing where all but the most fragile versions of Rebirth or perhaps George Perez versions of Wondy fail in any fight between these 2 taking place on DC or Marvel Earth. I'll show the SECOND time Kurse was put down first, though, 'cause that's what's at my fingertips at the moment:
Source: Thor #363
The original poster (OP) of this thread gave 2 fight scenario.
For the sake of argument, I'll give the first fight scenario to Kurse, not because I actually believe Kurse would win, but because the intent seems to be to get the question of whether Wonder Woman has the grappling skill to overcome a stronger opponent. I don't really think Rebirth Wonder Woman has demonstrated enough to justify that line of thinking.
The 2nd scenario, however, has Wonder Woman presumably as she normally is, with her tiara bracers and lasso, minimum, and perhaps her sword and shield.
I think, examining Power Pack #18, that Diana wins this more standard format of fight. Note that even in the 1990s under Byrne she faced essentially the same type of opponent:
Originally posted by riv6672
Well, your scans worked beautifully, and served to illustrate your position on each scenario.
That was a pleasure!
🙁
I-I wasn't even finished yet ...
Source: Wonder Woman #105, Volume 2
Circa: 1995
While I hope you and others genuinely ARE enjoying my recent posts
(I seriously am not recalling ever seeing Kurse in actual comic book action anywhere on KMC before),
I was going to say that, judging by what actually put Kurse down for a 10 count, even Byrne Wonder Woman demonstrated the ability to score a Round 2 knockout ...
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
🙁I-I wasn't even finished yet...
While I hope you and others genuinely ARE enjoying my recent posts
(I seriously am not recalling ever seeing Kurse in actual comic book action anywhere on KMC before),
I was going to say that, judging by what actually put Kurse down for a 10 count, even Byrne Wonder Woman demonstrated the ability to score a Round 2 knockout ...
Originally posted by Stoic
I'm wondering how Kurse ever gets a chance to hit someone of Diana's skill level alone, without even taking her speed into consideration?
I'm wondering that AND why a being felled by a collapsing building is thought beyond even Rebirth Wonder Woman, who demonstrated strength and skill enough to multitask even WHILE supporting a building :
Source: Wonder Woman #38 (rebirth era)
Circa: 2017
Originally posted by Sin I AM
did you look at the scans you posted?
Yes, and I've been struck by how cyclical in nature DC actually is in terms of storylines, ideas, and imagery.
Note that the dark gods of 2018, or at least the one on the cover of Wonder Woman #48, echoes the action and appearance of the great mechanical warrior of Wonder Woman #105, Volume 2, shown just a few posts earlier:
Note also that, besides similar appearance, the way the antagonist is dealt with, BatteFieldRemoval (BFR) into the nearest ocean ...
... was virtually the same 20+ years ago:
I suspect more than sea-dunking will be required to give us a full conclusion to the story of our present monolith warriors, however ...
Originally posted by riv6672
Cant speak for others; i enjoy your scans.
I still believe Kurse has the advantage in these fights, but that doesnt mean i cant admire how you went out of your way to put your argument together.
Hey, thanks, man.
Much appreciated.
Now, of course, I disagree with your conclusion, given how Diana in recent years has handled Kurse-like proxies in the DCU:
Source: Justice League #47
Source: Wonder Woman #47 (series begun in 2016)
Circa: May 2018
... but I certainly won't let that get in the way of your compliments!
