Originally posted by panthergod
Ok...?None of those are current Superman.. or even close, really.
plus, in DC, Divine power is related to but distinct from magick. Hence the magickal aspect of Zeus shown in the SHAZAM series.
Either way, He's withstood blasts from Modru boosted with all the magick in the Universe and blasts from the combined power of Olympus and several other Universe-level cosmic+divine+magick power sources.
Plus, we already know that DC magick is more potent than Marvel magick, and puny small god magick lightning from Marvel that has matched Zeus' has directly FAILED to activate his magick weakness.
What's the difference between current Supes and the Superman that we seen before New 52?
Let's put the magic weakness aside for now--it's pretty unpredictable.
I'd also say that given the near-parity of Marvel Skyfathers, Zeus would be prone to the same kinds of swings we see from Odin.
This leads me to believe that while Zeus is heavily favored overall--throughout history--there is some overlap. A high-end Superman portrayal might beat a low-end Marvel Skyfather portrayal, the kind of rare portrayal where the Skyfather can get into a competitive fight with a top end hero, e.g., Thor vs. Odin, etc.
Agreed. But I have no idea how to quantify it. It's effect, and the degree of the effect, seem to be entirely at the whim of a given writer. It's basically used randomly to advance the plotline. Magic has and has not been a factor when Superman has been fighting deities. There's no real rhyme or reason.
So it makes sense to discuss the fight ignoring the weakness, and then to just remember that it could somehow become a factor in any fight.
One pattern I've seen is that writers tend to feel that they have no choice but to invoke some degree of magic weakness when there is an actual incantation or spell directed at Superman--though he may still overcome it.
Divine magic has tended to invoke the magic weakness with far less consistency when the divinely-powered opponents are not explicitly casting spells. Still, it has sometimes been invoked when just throwing down with a god or demi-god. There are definitely no hard rules here.
Originally posted by panthergod
Fact. Superman's durability>> small god lightning. laugh in order to hide those tears.
Supes got stomped by someone whos lightning is an insect to zeus, your daddy isnt winning this
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Really?Was it worse than Livewire one-shotting Superman as she did here?
Source: Flash #237 Volume 2
Circa: April 2008
