Is "fairness" uniquely American?

I have quite a few non American friends, and they seem to consider the idea that people should be treated equally, ignoring gender, race ect as almost.. childish.

My Indian friends, for example, have a pretty set in stone role for males/females in their culture.

British males have attitudes that would be considered misogynistic.. I mean, they talk about women like they're sex objects. These same Brits also love to chastise "Yanks" about any impropriaties, but I wonder if that's because they're SJW's, or if they know Americans are obsessed with this stuff, and like to tease us of it.

I mean, didn't the English starve the Irish? Yet, no shame for it. Irish and English get alone just fine.

Really,, I can't think of many other cultures that take their social politics so seriously. At least, none that I know.

Originally posted by cdtm

I mean, didn't the English starve the Irish? Yet, no shame for it. Irish and English get alone just fine.

Why don't you ask a Native American or African American if fairness is uniquely American?

Originally posted by cdtm
British males have attitudes that would be considered misogynistic.. I mean, they talk about women like they're sex objects.

Don't really agree with that, I mean of course English men may talk to each other about women in a negative or patronizing fashion at times but hardly misogynistic. Ask any woman who has ever drank on her own at a bar in the States if she enjoys a line of men queuing up to give her shitty lines and saying things like, 'If you don't want to talk to me, then why are you here on your own?' Happens in England too but it happened on a daily basis when I lived in NY. (I was behind the bar, not being the sleazy male, LOL.)

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Why don't you ask a Native American or African American if fairness is uniquely American?

I asked a native Irishman who was friends with an Englishman if there were any tensions over the Irish Potatoe Famine. They said, not bit. At all.

A lot of people died from that event. It was ethnically targeted. It was a type of slavery, really. It's the kind of event you could argue a people SHOULD feel guilty over, or that the victims should harbor resentment.

But they don't.

That's what I'm asking.

It just seems like most other countries don't really have the same political baggage over their atrocities that we do, nor do they really seem to put much stock into our social politics.

I was actually pretty shocked to find out British schools don't even have anything like the various student activists we have here in the states. I mean, our educational system was taken direct from England, and yet they don't have SJW's? And claim they even laugh at all the stock we put into social politics?

And I've heard the same from others, from various countries.

I know Canada is probably even MORE oriented towards social politics then the US, but there' seems probably a shared history element to that..

There are plenty of SJW's in Britain and plenty of marches too, perhaps it's not reported as much in US media. In regards to US social politics it does seem to me like the media is going all out to romanticize it and certain groups lap it up because the media exposure leads them to believe that real social change is on the horizon, and what teenager doesn't want to say they were a part of social change when they are older? Growing up hearing about Woodstock, women's lib, the Million Man March and things like that, people want their own stories to tell their grandkids.

Originally posted by cdtm
I mean, didn't the English starve the Irish? Yet, no shame for it. Irish and English get alone just fine.

Umm, no we don't. I mean, it's not as bad as it was before, but still.

And they tried to wipe us out. Literal attempted genocide.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Umm, no we don't. I mean, it's not as bad as it was before, but still.

And they tried to wipe us out. Literal attempted genocide.

Interesting.

It appears my English friends were blowing smoke up my "bum" about there being no hard feelings for (As you say) attempted genocide.

And the very kind Irish friends didn't want to contradict them.

There are still tensions there but I see a lot of it as being down to the fact that not a lot of English know too much/care too much about the history and when those people are in the same room as a 'professional' Irishman, the sparks can fly.

Originally posted by cdtm
I have quite a few non American friends, and they seem to consider the idea that people should be treated equally, ignoring gender, race ect as almost.. childish.

My Indian friends, for example, have a pretty set in stone role for males/females in their culture.

British males have attitudes that would be considered misogynistic.. I mean, they talk about women like they're sex objects. These same Brits also love to chastise "Yanks" about any impropriaties, but I wonder if that's because they're SJW's, or if they know Americans are obsessed with this stuff, and like to tease us of it.

I mean, didn't the English starve the Irish? Yet, no shame for it. Irish and English get alone just fine.

Really,, I can't think of many other cultures that take their social politics so seriously. At least, none that I know.

With all that is happening in the UK now(and Europe in general) you should be able to easily shut these f*ckers down by pointing out that kind of shit. Two words: nazi dog.

Originally posted by cdtm
Interesting.

It appears my English friends were blowing smoke up my "bum" about there being no hard feelings for (As you say) attempted genocide.

And the very kind Irish friends didn't want to contradict them.

I'm sure they genuinely believed what they told you. Which actually makes it worse lol.

The Land of U.K. Truly it is filled with Horrible HORRIBLE People!!

half surprised this thread wasn't saying "the idea of fairness is made by the rich people who own everything so they can control everyone else like sheep while we all think we have principles"

Originally posted by Emperordmb
half surprised this thread wasn't saying "the idea of fairness is made by the rich people who own everything so they can control everyone else like sheep while we all think we have principles"

Works for Disney. They are the Biggest Bully on the Block and will Crush all who stand in their way but their Fans act like they are all sugar and honey. While said Fans attend 99%'ers rallys and proclaim all Big Corps are EVIL to the Core.

Fans are stupid.
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Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]The Land of U.K. Truly it is filled with Horrible HORRIBLE People!! [/B]

So. True.

YouTube video

Originally posted by Emperordmb
half surprised this thread wasn't saying "the idea of fairness is made by the rich people who own everything so they can control everyone else like sheep while we all think we have principles"

Nah, they just don't practice what they preach, and use their resources to make sure nobody ever sees the skeletons in their closets.

Originally posted by cdtm
Interesting.

It appears my English friends were blowing smoke up my "bum" about there being no hard feelings for (As you say) attempted genocide.

And the very kind Irish friends didn't want to contradict them.

It's largely this:

Originally posted by samhain
There are still tensions there but I see a lot of it as being down to the fact that not a lot of English know too much/care too much about the history and when those people are in the same room as a 'professional' Irishman, the sparks can fly.

They're not told how scummy the empire was in places like Ireland and India. The truth is, the average English person is fine. They're good people in general, like in most places.

There are still tensions, but it's not between most Irish and most English. It's the kind of people that believe that the British empire is still as relevant as it was (largely politicians and the upper, upper class), and that Ireland should say "how high" during the Brexit border issue in Northern Ireland.

I am curious though: What kind of social politics were you talking about in the OP that you don't think are taken seriously in other countries?

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's largely this:

They're not told how scummy the empire was in places like Ireland and India. The truth is, the average English person is fine. They're good people in general, like in most places.

There are still tensions, but it's not between most Irish and most English. It's the kind of people that believe that the British empire is still as relevant as it was (largely politicians and the upper, upper class), and that Ireland should say "how high" during the Brexit border issue in Northern Ireland.

I am curious though: What kind of social politics were you talking about in the OP that you don't think are taken seriously in other countries?

Says the guy who works for the Even Scummier Middle East Empires.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Says the guy who works for the Even Scummier Middle East Empires. [/B]

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I thought that's who Kushner worked for? I am now working in Africa... I love being an international man of mystery my retarded, drug-addled fellow poster.

Yeah because Africa is in no way Controlled or Connected to the Middle East.

Not in ANY WAY!

You work for Big Oil. You are Evil Incarnate. And that is according to the people on your own political spectrum to.

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