Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Depends on how much prep/knowledge the OP gives Supes. For example, Graviton has one weakness Clark could easily exploit if he knew about it, in that he still needs to breath. And while not in the same way Quake did it, Supes is more than capable of sending him to space. So, it depends on how much the OP allows IMO.
I'm not sure about that. Graviton has shields surrounding him at all times, even a speedster was unable to get close to him. Granted, Superman is way stronger than Yo-Yo but I don't know if a pure physical attack would allow him to overcome the shields and launch Graviton to space. Daisy was able to do it because she had similar powers to Graviton.
But yeah, it's an option... but then there's still Ward.
I will tell you how this will play out:
Superman defeats them all reaching finally to Thanos (I doubt he can defeat Hela or Surtur or many other characters, but for the sake of debating...)
He spots Thanos. He speed blitz..He punches Thanos left and right! Thanos is helpless. Khal El smiles...all that power; useless. The infinity stones are dark (not turning)...
1 hour has passed..Superman is bloodlusted! His resistance is amazing
.He keeps pounding the Mad Titan left and right. He is motionless (For some reason Steppenwolf was moving in his fight with Supe, and yet Thanos isnt...)
3hrs later:
Superman keeps speed blitzing!! His Stamina is never ending...
5hrs later:
Boom!!!!! The Titan destroys the last building standing up! He falls! Superman stops...The Titan is lying down...
Superman laughs. He has somehow won. BUT!!!!!....
Something laughs in the air...
Reality warps revealing the truth; The Power Stone lights while the Reality Stone goes dim
Superman is startled...The pain he now feels!!!!!....Not even Kryptonite is as painful.
The Titan Laughs!! And lastly he says, "You have my respects Khal El".
The Kryptonian turns into ash..
The Titan has won...Again
😂 😂
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I will tell you how this will play out:Superman defeats them all reaching finally to Thanos (I doubt he can defeat Hela or Surtur or many other characters, but for the sake of debating...)
He spots Thanos. He speed blitz..He punches Thanos left and right! Thanos is helpless. Khal El smiles...all that power; useless. The infinity stones are dark (not turning)...
1 hour has passed..Superman is bloodlusted! His resistance is amazing
.He keeps pounding the Mad Titan left and right. He is motionless (For some reason Steppenwolf was moving in his fight with Supe, and yet Thanos isnt...)3hrs later:
Superman keeps speed blitzing!! His Stamina is never ending...
5hrs later:
Boom!!!!! The Titan destroys the last building standing up! He falls! Superman stops...The Titan is lying down...
[B] Superman laughs. He has somehow won. BUT!!!!!....
Something laughs in the air...
Reality warps revealing the truth; The Power Stone lights while the Reality Stone goes dim
Superman is startled...The pain he now feels!!!!!....Not even Kryptonite is as painful.
The Titan Laughs!! And lastly he says, "You have my respects Khal El".
The Kryptonian turns into ash..The Titan has won...Again
😂 😂 [/B]
Naah! Too much plot. Thanos turns Superman into a bloodlusted butterfly.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm not sure about that. Graviton has shields surrounding him at all times, even a speedster was unable to get close to him. Granted, Superman is way stronger than Yo-Yo but I don't know if a pure physical attack would allow him to overcome the shields and launch Graviton to space. Daisy was able to do it because she had similar powers to Graviton.But yeah, it's an option... but then there's still Ward.
Yeah, he has shields, but it does seem like he needs to consciously erect them. Daisy was able to plough into him during the finale and tackle him into the side of a bus when he wasn't paying attention. And she was able to hit him with a prolonged vibration blast in an earlier episode as well. IIRC, he was already in a confrontational state when Yo-Yo tried blitzing him (people had been shooting at him as well unless I am misremembering), which means he probably already had his shields up. Also, remember, Superman has a kind of similar feat of smashing through the World Engine gravity beam, while weakened. Plus heat vision and freeze breath, which might be able to do something.
But eh, like I said, a lot of this (and with other characters we haven't even discussed) depends on how much info Clark gets. With Graviton, for example, if he knows what the guy can do, his weaknesses etc. and is operating at super competent/bloodlusted level, he will know he needs to try and blindside blitz him before he can use his powers. But it also depends on which order he goes at it, in terms of heroes/villains he fights. And this can be applied to a few others as well.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, he has shields, but it does seem like he needs to consciously erect them. Daisy was able to plough into him during the finale and tackle him into the side of a bus when he wasn't paying attention. And she was able to hit him with a prolonged vibration blast in an earlier episode as well. IIRC, he was already in a confrontational state when Yo-Yo tried blitzing him (people had been shooting at him as well unless I am misremembering), which means he probably already had his shields up. Also, remember, Superman has a kind of similar feat of smashing through the World Engine gravity beam, while weakened. Plus heat vision and freeze breath, which might be able to do something.But eh, like I said, a lot of this (and with other characters we haven't even discussed) depends on how much info Clark gets. With Graviton, for example, if he knows what the guy can do, his weaknesses etc. and is operating at super competent/bloodlusted level, he will know he needs to try and blindside blitz him before he can use his powers. But it also depends on which order he goes at it, in terms of heroes/villains he fights. And this can be applied to a few others as well.
Well, I was assuming the MCU team knew that they were getting into a fight, which meant they would enact their various shields and abilities as soon as the fight starts. As fast as Superman is, I don't think he can kill all of them before some of them have had the chance to put up their defenses. Depends I guess on who Superman decides to take out first and how fast he does it. Some of the MCU team are harder to kill than others.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well, I was assuming the MCU team knew that they were getting into a fight, which meant they would enact their various shields and abilities as soon as the fight starts. As fast as Superman is, I don't think he can kill all of them before some of them have had the chance to put up their defenses. Depends I guess on who Superman decides to take out first and how fast he does it. Some of the MCU team are harder to kill than others.
Agree, which is why I said it also largely depends on the order. Like Surtur, for example, was basically laughing off having building-sized spikes driven through his body. So, while Superman is busy trying to kill his giant ass, it could give others an opening.
What also makes it difficult is we are really dealing with a theoretical Superman who we haven't seen in action. Even when he was confused and fighting the Justice League, I wouldn't call him bloodlusted to to speak, or he wouldn't even have bothered toying with Bruce. Just splattered him with the first punch he threw at him. And now we have him both bloodlusted and arguably operating on a more competent level than we have actually seen him do in the films as well.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Agree, which is why I said it also largely depends on the order. Like Surtur, for example, was basically laughing off having building-sized spikes driven through his body. So, while Superman is busy trying to kill his giant ass, it could give others an opening.What also makes it difficult is we are really dealing with a theoretical Superman who we haven't seen in action. Even when he was confused and fighting the Justice League, I wouldn't call him bloodlusted to to speak, or he wouldn't even have bothered toying with Bruce. Just splattered him with the first punch he threw at him. And now we have him both bloodlusted and arguably operating on a more competent level than we have actually seen him do in the films as well.
Yeah, and it also begs the question of whether bloodlusted Superman is a skilled tactician. Because I'm trying to put myself in Superman's shoes and can't figure out which order to take the MCU characters out. Thanos would be the obvious first choice to nullify the gauntlet. But after then, do I go for the more powerful characters like Surtur or Odin or the Ancient One? Because if I tangle with Surter (or one of the more powerful characters) it might mean that I can't take them out fast enough and that will give the other characters time to organize. Or do I take out the easier prey so I can thin out the enemy... but then that means the more powerful characters will have time to organize.
Originally posted by Khazra RebornThe dude lost his pansy step dad to a tornado, lost to an oil rig, and lost to a fat Batman but yet somehow people think he has one out of a billion chance is just fanboyism.
The way some people jack off Superman is hilarious, he has no chance in Hell against the entire MCU, that's laughable.
bloodlusted dosent mean he'll be fighting like warrior madness thor. it means he'll be going all out with his powers, no being careful here. He could even sundip in the sun.
And with accurate knowlege of his opponents he decimates them. thanos will be the first to fall (he'll go for the head this time, trust me, unlike someone i know..)
Originally posted by The Spectre+
bloodlusted dosent mean he'll be fighting like warrior madness thor. it means he'll be going all out with his powers, no being careful here. He could even sundip in the sun.
And with accurate knowlege of his opponents he decimates them. thanos will be the first to fall (he'll go for the head this time, trust me, unlike someone i know..)
Speculation...
Originally posted by The Spectre+Nothing you said is proven and it’s based off the comics, etc. if you want to go the co it’s route he has a huge weakness to magic aka Strange solos.
bloodlusted dosent mean he'll be fighting like warrior madness thor. it means he'll be going all out with his powers, no being careful here. He could even sundip in the sun.
And with accurate knowlege of his opponents he decimates them. thanos will be the first to fall (he'll go for the head this time, trust me, unlike someone i know..)
Thanos uses the reality stone to turn him into cement. Thanos proved he can definitely handle anything someone like Superman throws at him. The same guy who couldn’t even solo the pitiful Stepp despite an entire team softening him up and having to focus on all of them not just Kal.
Originally posted by The Spectre+
bloodlusted dosent mean he'll be fighting like warrior madness thor. it means he'll be going all out with his powers, no being careful here. He could even sundip in the sun.
And with accurate knowlege of his opponents he decimates them. thanos will be the first to fall (he'll go for the head this time, trust me, unlike someone i know..)
We don't know yet what sundipping will do to this version of Superman or if he's even capable of doing it. Right now all we know is that exposure to the sun heals him back to his fully healthy state.
Anyway, Superman can win but it's not as easy as you think. There are a number of characters in the MCU that Superman can't oneshot, and if he gets entangle with one of them for too long the others might be able to lay a hand on him. As strong as Superman is if some of the stronger MCU characters grab him and hold him down, he won't be able to get out of that.
If Kurse, Hulk, Thanos and Abom each holds down one of his limbs while Scarlet Witch and Graviton pins him down with their TK and Surtur pushes him down with a finger to his chest and Thor holds Cap's shield over his face... then he'll be helpless to stop Mantis from messing with his mind. Or Hela can just start using him as a pin cushion. Or Vision can plunge a hand through his chest and crush his heart.
Superman's key here is his speed. He needs to keep moving, making sure he doesn't get bogged down. He can't afford to make a mistake, not when there's these many powerful opponents.
^^^froth your last paragraph is exactly what am implying.
I Mean this guy KNOWS EVERY ONE OF THEIR POWERS AND HAS PREP . He KNOWS he has to constantly use flashesque speed ( as that OBVIOUSLY is the only chance he has). He will be operating at 100% including his SPEED.
We saw what stormbreaker was able to do to thanos. well clark can just decapitate thanos head. why? he KNOWS thats what he has to do(attacking any other place will be stupid)
In the end all these guys die/or severely damaged except those guys with near unlimited/hax powers.